NS4 headphones routing

[the_steff]

Hi !

Phone out is routed from "out 1 & 2" but not "out 3 & 4". In my case, it is a problem. Coud it be possible to add a feature allowing to have all out signals (1+2+3+4) routed to phone out ?

Thanks !

[maxpiano]

Hi, nope, the routing is likely defined at hardware level, so you get it the way it is; an external (small) mixer is the way to go if you need a 1+2+3+4 mix to your headphones (for example to send the 3+4 back to the NS Monitor IN. EDIT: not on NS3/4, in general it is better to plug the headphones directly to the mixer)

[anotherscott]

Hi, nope, the routing is likely defined at hardware level, so you get it the way it is; an external (small) mixer is the way to go if you need a 1+2+3+4 mix to your headphones (for example to send the 3+4 back to the NS Monitor IN)

Depending on which Stage model we're talking about, sending 3+4 back to the NS Monitor In may result in also sending 3+4 to 1+2, which we don't want. So the phones would have to be plugged into the mixer.

[maxpiano]

Hi, nope, the routing is likely defined at hardware level, so you get it the way it is; an external (small) mixer is the way to go if you need a 1+2+3+4 mix to your headphones (for example to send the 3+4 back to the NS Monitor IN)

Depending on which Stage model we're talking about, sending 3+4 back to the NS Monitor In may result in also sending 3+4 to 1+2, which we don't want. So the phones would have to be plugged into the mixer.

you are right anotherscott, I forgot that on NS3/4 this is how it is implemented (so not an option in those cases).

But... question to OP is: why do you route some sounds to 3/4 and then you want all of them mixed back to NS own Headphones? I expect that if you send some Section to 3/4 it is to process it differently than the 1+2 outside of the NS and this would be lost if an internal 1+2+3+4 headphone mix existed.

[FZiegler]

If you use a small digital mixer like the Behringer Flow-8, you easily get a main mix and a separate monitor mix.

[the_steff]

Ok thanks.

Just to explain my need, here is my use case :
When I play 2 différent keyboards, I usually use the 2 different phone out of each keyboard, merge them with an adaptater like this one :
https://www.prozic.com/www2/info_promo_ ... -mono.html

and plug it to a Bose L1 system (just one jack entry). It's very convenient because it permits an autonomous management of my own volume with the Bose in addition to a classic audio return for the rest of the group. This small adapter / merger avoid to me bringing a dedicated mixer (more cables, power supply, ...).

I just wanted to do the same thing with NS4 + second midi controler keyboard. It is important for the sound engineer to be able to process the sound of one keyboard or another on the fly (even though in reality all the sounds come out of the ns4 but I have routed the audio controlled by the secondary master keyboard to outputs 3 and 4).

I've tried the merger tricks with the "thru" out of the DI but it creates disturbing anomalies to the sound sended to the main console.

Thanks... I'll then use my little mixer to do the job.