Power conditioner or surge protector?

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Re: Power conditioner or surge protector?

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docbop wrote:Simple solution don't buy cheap gear. Why buy top of the line keyboard then connect it to bargain basement support gear?
Yes exactly.. that's why I want to make sure I'm buying an appropriate one before I mess up. I contacted thomann and they recommended https://www.thomann.de/gb/furman_ac210_ ... tioner.htm but isn't this different from a UPS? Would this be enough against brownouts/blackouts?
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Winds wrote:
docbop wrote:Simple solution don't buy cheap gear. Why buy top of the line keyboard then connect it to bargain basement support gear?
Yes exactly.. that's why I want to make sure I'm buying an appropriate one before I mess up. I contacted thomann and they recommended https://www.thomann.de/gb/furman_ac210_ ... tioner.htm but isn't this different from a UPS? Would this be enough against brownouts/blackouts?
This filters out voltage transients and surges but doesn’t lift (brownouts) or provide a battery backup.
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MarkJames wrote:
Winds wrote:
docbop wrote:Simple solution don't buy cheap gear. Why buy top of the line keyboard then connect it to bargain basement support gear?
Yes exactly.. that's why I want to make sure I'm buying an appropriate one before I mess up. I contacted thomann and they recommended https://www.thomann.de/gb/furman_ac210_ ... tioner.htm but isn't this different from a UPS? Would this be enough against brownouts/blackouts?
This filters out voltage transients and surges but doesn’t lift (brownouts) or provide a battery backup.
I've been checking out locally and almost all major sellers are out of stock.. can any1 help to direct me to a suitable ups that has a battery backup, online, either sweetwater, thomann or bhphotovideo should be fine..
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I was able to find ONE shop that has 2 line interactive UPS units left, doesn't seem that expensive tho, about 50-70 usd... Both are prolink brand... and specs are as follows

Model 1
Capacity - 650VA
Input - 140 - 300VAC +-5% 50/60Hz (Auto Sensing)
Output - 230VAC +-10% 50Hz +-1% (Battery mode)
Transfer Time - 2ms typical
Battery Type - 12V/8.2AH x 1
Backup Time - 8 to 30 mins depending on the load
Recharge Time - 2 - 4 hours recover to 90% of the capacity

Model 2
Capacity - 850VA
Input - 140 - 300VAC +-5% 50/60Hz (Auto Sensing)
Output - 230VAC +-10% 50Hz +-1% (Battery mode)
Transfer Time - 2ms typical
Battery Type - 12V/10AH x 1
Backup Time - 8 to 30 mins depending on the load
Recharge Time - 2 - 4 hours recover to 90% of the capacity

Seems like capacity and the battery type are the only ones that differ while the rest looks the same. Should this be enough and then I can just pair/chain it with this https://www.thomann.de/gb/furman_ac210_ ... tioner.htm ? If so do I go with Model 1, 2? Or either should suffice?
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If you’re only powering your Nord and maybe a few other keyboards/modules #1 should be enough.
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MarkJames wrote:If you’re only powering your Nord and maybe a few other keyboards/modules #1 should be enough.
So after getting #1 this is probably not necessary correct? https://www.thomann.de/gb/furman_ac210_ ... tioner.htm

Just to add on, as of now I am only powering an NS3, so no other keyboard or modules
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Winds wrote:
MarkJames wrote:If you’re only powering your Nord and maybe a few other keyboards/modules #1 should be enough.
So after getting #1 this is probably not necessary correct? https://www.thomann.de/gb/furman_ac210_ ... tioner.htm

Just to add on, as of now I am only powering an NS3, so no other keyboard or modules
I’d try it first and see before getting the Furman
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MarkJames wrote:
Winds wrote:
MarkJames wrote:If you’re only powering your Nord and maybe a few other keyboards/modules #1 should be enough.
So after getting #1 this is probably not necessary correct? https://www.thomann.de/gb/furman_ac210_ ... tioner.htm

Just to add on, as of now I am only powering an NS3, so no other keyboard or modules
I’d try it first and see before getting the Furman
Alright Ill buy one tomorrow and play around with it at home first and see how it goes, thank you!
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Brunei seems to have 240 V at 50 HZ with UK-like power sockets
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So I was able to find another shop that are selling UPS but the prices are quite expensive, about 6 models ranging from about 70 to 1000 usd. Is it even worth buying that expensive?

The specs are as follows, from cheapest to expensive

BVX700LUI-MS - US$70
360W/700A
220-240V Input/Output
AVR,USB Charging,Universal Sockets

Smart-UPS LCD SMC1000I - US$435
600W/1000VA
230V Input/Output
LCD Interface
Input - IEC C14
Output - 8 x IEC C13

Back-UPS Pro, BR1300MI - US$435
780W/1300VA
230V Input/Output
LCD Interface
8 Outlets & AVR

Power-Saving Back-UPS Pro, BR1500MI - US$510
865W/1500VA
230V Input/Output
LCD Interface
12 IEC Outlets (5 surge)

Smart-UPS LCD, SMC1500I - US$605
900W/1500VA
230V Input/Output
LCD Interface
Input - IEC 320v C14
Output - 8 x IEC C13

Smart-UPS LCD, SMC3000I - US$1090
2100W/3000VA
230V Input/Output
LCD Interface
Input - IEC 320V C19
Output - 8 x IEC C13

So I guess now with more options I am confused and just need help pinpointing.. is it worth to spend a bit more on any of these models, or getting the Model 1 previously mentioned is enough (about US$50)?
Winds wrote: Model 1
Capacity - 650VA
Input - 140 - 300VAC +-5% 50/60Hz (Auto Sensing)
Output - 230VAC +-10% 50Hz +-1% (Battery mode)
Transfer Time - 2ms typical
Battery Type - 12V/8.2AH x 1
Backup Time - 8 to 30 mins depending on the load
Recharge Time - 2 - 4 hours recover to 90% of the capacity
Again, if I were to buy one, I would only be using it to currently power only a NS3, no other keyboards or modules whatsoever.
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