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[oklacrow]

I imported my first sample--the sound of glass breaking that begins Billy Joel's You May Be Right. In my existing setup (C:06:1), Slot A is Sax (sample #116) and Slot B is keyboard, the default starting point. I want to trigger the sound of glass breaking (sample #124) and then jump right back to my original voices. The only way I can see to do that is to dial in C:06:1, turn the keyboard off, switch to Slot A, dial up Sample 124, trigger the sound, and then go to C:06:02 and then back to C:06:1 to cancel any changes. Please tell me there is an easier way!

[RichardG]

I imported my first sample--the sound of glass breaking that begins Billy Joel's You May Be Right. In my existing setup (C:06:1), Slot A is Sax (sample #116) and Slot B is keyboard, the default starting point. I want to trigger the sound of glass breaking (sample #124) and then jump right back to my original voices. The only way I can see to do that is to dial in C:06:1, turn the keyboard off, switch to Slot A, dial up Sample 124, trigger the sound, and then go to C:06:02 and then back to C:06:1 to cancel any changes. Please tell me there is an easier way!

I'd use an empty slot (lets say C:06:2) and put the glass sample there. then you can change at the press of a button.
Put both in a song and you could place the sample-patch anywhere (and switch the same way).

[pablomastodon]

Hi oklacrow,

You say that Slot B is "keyboard." What keyboard? Can you be more specific? Each slot has three available sound engines (organ, piano and synth). If you're not using the Synth Section on Slot B, you can program that section for the glass breaking sample and map it to an extreme high or low zone.

Not clear why you think that the kbd must be turned off in your scenario? There is no reason to do that...

If you're already using Synth B for something else in that program, you could consider moving the glass breaking sample from 124 to 117 (and what used to be in 117 goes to 124), then simply dial up Synth A sample number one click for the glass and dial it back down again afterward.

Also, it is not necessary to "go to C:06:02 and then back to C:06:01" in order to cancel changes. Simply hitting the Program 1 button will cause the C:06:01 program to reload in its original state, canceling edits in the process.

bless, pablo

[oklacrow]

Thanks, Pablo.

The keyboard is Grand Model 1. It is mapped to all three kb zones in Slot B, so if I add the synth to Slot B, the keyboard is layered on top of the synth glass breaking no matter where I map the synth. All I know to do is turn the keyboard off and then back on. If I swapped 124 and 117 (which I don't know how to do), the same thing would happen. Am I missing something?

I didn't know that hitting the Program 1 button would reset everything--nice to know!

I doubt if you remember, but I came to you for help shortly after purchasing the Nord. You also fixed the headphone port after I broke it. I really appreciate all of your help--both then and now.

[JMStage2]

another alternative to using split as suggested above. (again assuming the synth section on slot B if free to assign the breaking glass). You could activate both the Piano and Breaking glass in Slot B and use the Morph (Mod Wheel or foot pedal) function to turn down the volume on the Piano and turn up the volume on the Synth section

[pablomastodon]

yes, JMStage2, that's another workable strategy

oklacrow, thanks for your kind words; I don't recall the headphone port repair, but will confess to having killed a few brain cells off over the years, and am thinking that when we met you did not introduce yourself to me as "oklacrow," so perhaps understandable that I didn't know this. You are local to Tampa? Or did I do this on the road somewhere in my hotel room or? I recall handling one of those jobs in a whirlpool room at the Staples Center in LA one time...that was kinda trippy, essentially being in the Lakers (or visitors) locker room for the job...

the cross-fade Morph thing is a good idea, but I'm thinking that it may be possible for you to sacrifice one of those zones to the sample only, leaving the other two zones for the grand. I use the 73-note model and the top zone can be shortened to just a few notes, leaving almost all of the rest of the keybed for addressing anything else

sample positions can be changed by connecting instrument via USB to computer running Nord Sound Manager; simply drag 'n drop one sample to the other location. And what I had in mind there would be to switch from sax to glass and back again, so no interference with Slot B piano. Do you need sax and glass at same time?

p

[oklacrow]

Hey Pablo,

My real name is John. I live in Lakeland. You were just coming down with what turned out to be the flu. I know because I took it home with me. But it was worth it for the knowledge I gained.

I have finally settled my dilemma thanks to the many great suggestions that you and other forum members gave me. Now I have a bit of a different problem: I have assigned the glass breaking to C:06:2, switching out as advised in Sound Manager. After I trigger the glass breaking, I can then switch quickly to C:06:1 for the rest of the song. When I am in C:06:2, nothing else is on but the synth, set to Sample 124 (glass breaking). But when I hit the assigned key for the glass (C2), I get the undertone of a rather faint but definite low C along with the glass breaking. I change to D2 and get a D sound. Any idea where that's coming from or how to get rid of it? I've tried everything I can think of.

Thanks,
John

[RichardG]

Are you sure the sample is "clean" ? So nothing in it wrt some underlying tone ?
Do you only use 1 panel ? So there's nothing in the second panel humming along ?
Anything external connected ? Other synth/module that generates sound ?

[oklacrow]

The sample was cut from the original Billy Joel song. I have no external equipment connected. Sorry, but I don't know what you mean by "panel." Maybe that's the culprit?

[maxpiano]

The sample was cut from the original Billy Joel song. I have no external equipment connected. Sorry, but I don't know what you mean by "panel." Maybe that's the culprit?

"Panel" = "Slot" on NS2, anyway if no other section either ons Slot A or B is active, I second the suspect that the "shadow note" is in the sample and/or it could be due to the looping you made (in NSE, if you looped it); try to audition (or analyze with an audio editor such as Audacity) the original .wav and see if you can spot it (e.g. using a spectrum analyzer) and/or check if you have any loop enabled on the NSE project (where you used it to generate the .nsmp)