Pipe organ upper manual can barely be hard over lower manual

[hpage3]

how do I adjust the volume of the swell manual so I can hear it above the great manual? I should be able to use more than one lower drawbar right? I have played this mode by running two cables from the left and right outputs into powered speakers and would still like the swell manual louder. I love the tone of the pipe sound this is my only complaint with this feature. Thanks Howard. I asked it a couple of different ways so you can disregard those posts thanks. Is the pipe organ stereo or mono?

[flmc59]

The problem is the volume of the pipes in the swell ranks.
This is normal organ behaviour.
First of all have the swell pedal on max.
The swell pedal only affects the swell manual.
When the pedal is on max you still have to go easy on the number of stops used on the great manual.
Using the reed stops helps to bring out the great manual.

[flmc59]

The organ in our local church has the same behaviour btw. And this is a real pipe one.

[Mooser]

Don't forget the "Sound" menu. No.14 (My Nord is in the garage packed up, but it's near the end of the "Sound" menu) has a "pipe swell level" adjustment, also a pipe pedal level adjustment.

But as flmc says, it's normal for the great to be louder and have more assertive stops, then the swell manual. Couplers from great-to-swell are used, too, to give the swell more oomph.

[dynanord]

I don´t like the Nord pipe organ very much. It feels so "synthesized". I really loved the Sk pipe organ and played it often after getting "deaf" by longterm practicing with the B3 sound. I tried to give the Nord pipes a big hall/reverb, but it doesn´t feel like jammin the church. I miss the typical "warm+wooden+attacky" character and it´s so distant - not me playing. But I purchased the Nord for the brilliant B3 tone, so I don´t want to cry too much. Just had to write this, don´t crush me please
Peace !

[Mooser]

"But I purchased the Nord for the brilliant B3 tone"

I think Nord agrees, and the decision to use the five physical drawbar sets announces the supremacy of the B3 model in the C2D organ hierarchy. And everybody seems to agree it was a brilliant decision, and whatever convenience is lost on the pipe, VX and Farf settings (from the LED-drawbutton models) is more than compensated for by the improvement in B-3 emulation, the physical drawbars. And whoever doesn't agree probably has some weird fear about being injured by drawbars, which are nearly harmless. I've even learned not to get my fingers caught in them.

BTW, the B-3, Vx, and Farf organs are driven by "digital organ engines" but the pipe organ is sample-based.

[flmc59]

The advantage of the dual drawbarsets extends to the pipeorgan as well. You can preset the sound and then switch to the new set of stops.
Btw I had missed the swell level adjustment. I primarily use the B3 sound.

[Mooser]

"Btw I had missed the swell level adjustment."

Ah-ha!, whern I took the plate of food off the right side of my C2 (Try that with your C2D!) I discovered No.13 on the "Sound" menu is "Pipe pedal level" and No. 14 "Pipe swell level" Of course, with all those drawbars festooning the top of your C2D, there's no place to print the menus. Gosh, all that convenience, gone, just to get a couple more sets drawbars! What were they thinking?

"You can preset the sound and then switch to the new set of stops."

If I am not mistaken (always a real good possibility) the "preview" button on a C2 does that, too.

Not, of course, like I'm saying if Fed-Ex dropped off a C2D at my house I would turn it down, or anything. But us C2 owners (and I bought mine just a few months before the C2D was released!) have to try and save face, somehow.

And may the C2D obtain the ubiquity it truly deserves!

[flmc59]

I still have my c1 and c2 and love them both

[Mooser]

"I still have my c1 and c2 and love them both"

In that case, maybe I can do you a favor. Believe me, I know what it is to have too many organs around the house! If that C2D gets in the way, if you find yourself tripping over it, or pinching your fingers between the drawbars (that always happens to me) or putting it out in the yard at night so there's room to sleep, just put it in a box and ship it to me. No, no need to thank me, I'm just one of those saintlike guys you read about. You know, like Albert Schweitzer. Would you keep Albert Schweitzer from getting a C2D? I knew you wouldn't! I'll put a sign out for the UPS man, and take my L100 to the dump, so there's room. I'll never forget this, flmc, thanks!

BTW, the left hand preset switches on the C2D must be pretty convenient. The preset switches (1,2,3 and 'preview') above the LED drawbuttons are not very handy. The LH location is better, I would think.