One foot pedal to control three Leslie States

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One foot pedal to control three Leslie States

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Currently, I can only control Leslie fast and slow, with a sus pedal in the Rotor socket.

Is there a way, without hands, to control stop as well as fast and slow?

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Re: One foot pedal to control three Leslie States

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You don't even tell which instrument you are talking about.

If it's a Stage 3 or 4 Compact, you can use the Half Moon Switch for manual use and would of course be able to create something similar in a DIY project as a pedal. The other Stage models don't feature the necessary setting for that task.
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Re: One foot pedal to control three Leslie States

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Thank you. Unfortunately it’s a stage 4. I have a digital half moon, but there are no holes on the Stage 4 for fitting. I would prefer not to use hands at all, they are for chords

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Re: One foot pedal to control three Leslie States

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I don't have a Stage 4. But I know that normal Stage 3s even don't have the setting built-in for the half-moon switch.

So if yours is the Stage 4 88HA or 73HA, it might be the same so that you won't be able to simply use a pedal or switch to connect to the rotary plug to select from all three (slow-off-fast). There may be a way over MIDI (with a programmable MIDI pedal), though.
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Re: One foot pedal to control three Leslie States

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Ok, thank you. Mine is a 88 key. I think it’s MIDI then. I shall take a look.
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Re: One foot pedal to control three Leslie States

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It is possible to build a passive pedal equivalent of the Half Moon switch, knowing its wiring viewtopic.php?t=21707, but it requires at least 2 pedals since it has to handle more than just 2 states.

Otherwise a MIDI single pedal, programmed to cycle through the Slow/Fast/Stop values of related MIDI CC could do the job (but in this way you will always pass through Stop when you want to just go Fast->Slow, so for me it is less than an ideal solution)
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Re: One foot pedal to control three Leslie States

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maxpiano wrote: 27 Dec 2024, 10:06 It is possible to build a passive pedal equivalent of the Half Moon switch, knowing its wiring viewtopic.php?t=21707, but it requires at least 2 pedals since it has to handle more than just 2 states.

Otherwise a MIDI single pedal, programmed to cycle through the Slow/Fast/Stop values of related MIDI CC could do the job (but in this way you will always pass through Stop when you want to just go Fast->Slow, so for me it is less than an ideal solution)
OK thanks.

Blue sky thinking why not a pedal with three positions or four ignoring one? I would think this is feasible. Some kind of bump or gear step kind of feel would be sufficient, for the foot to know.

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Re: One foot pedal to control three Leslie States

Post by Klondyke77 »

I checked MIDI Output of my Stage 3:
Leslie Speed is on CC108
Values: Fast=128, Slow=43, Stop=0

On Stage 4 Leslie Speed is still on CC108 (as written in Manual). I'm quite sure that Nord kept the same values.
So with a programmable MIDI footswitch it is possible to have either 2 (Fast/Slow-Toggle and Stop), or Fast/Slow/Stop as 3 independant switches.
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Re: One foot pedal to control three Leslie States

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Klondyke77 wrote: 27 Dec 2024, 10:21 I checked MIDI Output of my Stage 3:
Leslie Speed is on CC108
Values: Fast=128, Slow=43, Stop=0

On Stage 4 Leslie Speed is still on CC108 (as written in Manual). I'm quite sure that Nord kept the same values.
So with a programmable MIDI footswitch it is possible to have either 2 (Fast/Slow-Toggle and Stop), or Fast/Slow/Stop as 3 independant switches.
Yes I also took a quick look, The issue is that both the fast/slow AND the stop/not stop functions are all CC108. I tried mapping them in the B3X VI and it wanted to map both switches simultaneously to the same on/off, which is not what you want. This could (I have not tested) mean that the Leslie always switch hold on and off at the same time as fast slow.


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Re: One foot pedal to control three Leslie States

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Yes I also took a quick look, The issue is that both the fast/slow AND the stop/not stop functions are all CC108. I tried mapping them in the B3X VI and it wanted to map both switches simultaneously to the same on/off, which is not what you want. This could (I have not tested) mean that the Leslie always switch hold on and off at the same time as fast slow.
Well, what you describe now is a more complex problem than what you initallly asked - in fact these are two now.
To control the Leslie states of a Stage 3 or 4 by foot switch I would recommend something like Behringer FCB1010.
If you want to control B3X VI with your NS4 you may need kind of a MIDI Mapper to translate MIDI commands. But I'm not quite sure what your setup is.
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