A question about PRG Change via Midi

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A question about PRG Change via Midi

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Hi all
First of all, sorry about my terrible english!
It is no problem to change the patches in Electro 6, except every patch behind x44. I cannot Choose y14 or z24
I think that i have to switch the LSB to 4, but the electro will ignore the PRG Chg.

And sometimes i send a correct PRG chg Message, but the electro switch to a wrong patch?? I checked 10 times my Midi message, but i cannot find the reason for this problem.

I hope i could explain my both problems - cheers to all!
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Re: A question about PRG Change via Midi

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Re: A question about PRG Change via Midi

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Hi, have you tried to monitor (with a MIDI monitoring app on a computer) what the NE6 sends when you select a Bank then a Program from that Bank on it?

That's what you have to send to get the same (first Bank select MSB/LSB then PC)
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Re: A question about PRG Change via Midi

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Oh man! I am so stupid!! I can do it with my hardware, i use a Sipario x and that genius staff can read and show me what the Electro had send! It was to easy for me!!
Thanks a lot for your advise, i will try it the next days.
Thanks - Heinz
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Re: A question about PRG Change via Midi

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Hi, I just wrote a small App to calculate the Midi Program.

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App Store: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/midi-mapp ... orm=iphone

Homepage: https://www.schroederonline.de/midimapper
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Re: A question about PRG Change via Midi

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Hi Marcel,

great, thank you for this!

I also like the overview of all MIDI controllers :thumbup:

P.S.: I was also trying to download the Windows version from your webpage, but the download does not start - is there anything special to consider when trying to download it? Tried with Firefox instead of Chrome and it worked ..
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Re: A question about PRG Change via Midi

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Schroederonline wrote:Hi, I just wrote a small App to calculate the Midi Program.

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App Store: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/midi-mapp ... orm=iphone

Homepage: https://www.schroederonline.de/midimapper
Sorry Herr Schröder, but it seems to me, that the app do not work realy correctly. It shows some wrong MSB / LSB values for the electro 6.
If i pick a value more for example x:11, it goes directly to N : 24
Higher values than G… is not possible.
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Re: A question about PRG Change via Midi

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Maybe, there really are problems. But if you want it corrected, you'd need to specify what you were using!

I tested it with the Win64 desktop version 1.25. And X:11 wasn't allowed for an Electro 6 (where that program number should exist) while it was allowed for a Stage 3 (where it doesn't exist).

I then tested P:13 and calculated it by hand. Starting with MSB:0, LSB:0, PC:0 for A:11. Which will never lead me to MSB:1 (should be the value for Songs), LSB:4 (shouldn't exist), PC:3, but to MSB:0, LSB:3, PC:2 if I used my fingers in a correct way.

Which leaves me irritated. Where's the mistake?
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Re: A question about PRG Change via Midi

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FZiegler wrote:Maybe, there really are problems. But if you want it corrected, you'd need to specify what you were using!

I tested it with the Win64 desktop version 1.25. And X:11 wasn't allowed for an Electro 6 (where that program number should exist) while it was allowed for a Stage 3 (where it doesn't exist).

I then tested P:13 and calculated it by hand. Starting with MSB:0, LSB:0, PC:0 for A:11. Which will never lead me to MSB:1 (should be the value for Songs), LSB:4 (shouldn't exist), PC:3, but to MSB:0, LSB:3, PC:2 if I used my fingers in a correct way.

Which leaves me irritated. Where's the mistake?
Sorry - i thought the picture shows an iphone, so for me was clear that i testet the IOS app. And i want to use it for a Nord electro 6D and there, so seems to me, are a lot of mistakes in the app.

Cheers - Heinz
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Re: A question about PRG Change via Midi

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We will see what Marcel can tell.
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