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No, I'm pretty sure you can't do that, unfortunatly... but you could use the headphone out for either the audio interface or the amp. It just takes a standard insert cable, with a stereo plug to two mono plugs. The headphone out carries the 1-2 audio channels as well, and I don't think you will have any problems with impedance or signal level, when using the headphone out to either the amp, or the audio interface.Fallboard wrote:Is it possible to clone outputs 1-2 on 3-4?
Yes! 1 = L and 2 = R - at least that is the way I always connect my Stage...Also, dumb question, but is 1 and 2 L and R, respectively?
But well... it will probably be a couple of more weeks before we can load that sample into our Stage 3s....What do you mean by clone? You mean all outputs with the same "sound".Fallboard wrote:Is it possible to clone outputs 1-2 on 3-4? My new amp lacks stereo out passthrough and I'd really rather not have to add a little mixer to my gig bag so I was wondering if I can just make 1-2 and 3-4 be the same so I can still go directly to my friend's interface during our practice sessions as usual. Also, dumb question, but is 1 and 2 L and R, respectively?
@Jo Osantos: Isn't it so that the rotary output is only routed to outputs 1 and 2? Possibly there are other differences too, but at least that one I seem to remember is a difference.Jo Osantos1 wrote:What do you mean by clone? You mean all outputs with the same "sound".Fallboard wrote:Is it possible to clone outputs 1-2 on 3-4? My new amp lacks stereo out passthrough and I'd really rather not have to add a little mixer to my gig bag so I was wondering if I can just make 1-2 and 3-4 be the same so I can still go directly to my friend's interface during our practice sessions as usual. Also, dumb question, but is 1 and 2 L and R, respectively?
Yes it is possible, i have done that on my NS3C
I still don't think you can route one or all sounds to all four outputs at the simultaneously.Jo Osantos1 wrote:What do you mean by clone? You mean all outputs with the same "sound".Fallboard wrote:Is it possible to clone outputs 1-2 on 3-4? My new amp lacks stereo out passthrough and I'd really rather not have to add a little mixer to my gig bag so I was wondering if I can just make 1-2 and 3-4 be the same so I can still go directly to my friend's interface during our practice sessions as usual. Also, dumb question, but is 1 and 2 L and R, respectively?
Yes it is possible, i have done that on my NS3C
EDIT: there's actually also a fifth alternative here, that's not in the manual. It should be:6 - OUTPUT PANEL A/B
Output Routing settings below are made independently for each panel.
Use the Panel A and B buttons respectively for switching between them.
MAIN
This allows for setting which stereo output pair or mono output to use
for each panel.
Range: Stereo 1-2 (Default), 3-4, 3, 4
* Sounds using the Rotary effect are always routed to outputs 1-2,
regardless of Output Routing settings.
EDIT: Again, the Range should be: 1-2, 3-4, 3, 4, 1-4SUB
Within each panel one sound engine (Organ, Piano or Synth) can be
routed independently of the Main output for that panel. This can be useful
for routing electric piano sounds to a guitar amplifier or organ sounds
to an external rotary speaker – or for any other scenario where sounds
of different types should be handled on separate outputs.
The physical output for the selected sound engine is set by the Dest
(Destination) setting – see below.
Range: Off (Default), Org, Pno, Syn
DEST
The Dest (Destination) setting determines to which output(s) the sound
engine selected for the Sub setting is routed.
Range: 1-2, 3-4, 3, 4
* Note that the Reverb and Compressor effects are only present on
the Main outputs selected for a panel.
I'm guessing that this means that all sounds, regardless if they're routed to 3 and/or 4, or 1 and 2, they will always be heard through the headphone out. So, if you for some reason want to send one or more sound(s) within your program, to 3 and/or 4, it will also be heard through the headphone out. Interesting, I did not know this.HEADPHONES
1/4 inch stereo headphone jack. Audio is always output through the
Headphones output, regardless of Output Routing settings.
Whats the point of not being able to heard the same sound from the 4 outputs?MrTobbe wrote:I still don't think you can route one or all sounds to all four outputs at the simultaneously.Jo Osantos1 wrote:What do you mean by clone? You mean all outputs with the same "sound".Fallboard wrote:Is it possible to clone outputs 1-2 on 3-4? My new amp lacks stereo out passthrough and I'd really rather not have to add a little mixer to my gig bag so I was wondering if I can just make 1-2 and 3-4 be the same so I can still go directly to my friend's interface during our practice sessions as usual. Also, dumb question, but is 1 and 2 L and R, respectively?
Yes it is possible, i have done that on my NS3C
This is what the latest version of the Stage 3 user manual says (version 1.2x|edition D):
So first of all, as Baekgaard was saying, there will be differences in sound: reverb and compressor will always come from the stereo outs 1 & 2 only, and never from 3 and/or 4, and the same goes for the rotary effect - it will never be heard from out 3 or 4. So any B3/Leslie type sound routed to output 3 & 4 will be without Leslie sim, or if the organ is routed to the rotary, it will only be heard through the rotary effect on out 1-2, no 3-4, and any sounds routed through 3 and/or 4 will be without reverb and compressor.6 - OUTPUT PANEL A/B
Output Routing settings below are made independently for each panel.
Use the Panel A and B buttons respectively for switching between them.
MAIN
This allows for setting which stereo output pair or mono output to use
for each panel.
Range: Stereo 1-2 (Default), 3-4, 3, 4
* Sounds using the Rotary effect are always routed to outputs 1-2,
regardless of Output Routing settings.
SUB
Within each panel one sound engine (Organ, Piano or Synth) can be
routed independently of the Main output for that panel. This can be useful
for routing electric piano sounds to a guitar amplifier or organ sounds
to an external rotary speaker – or for any other scenario where sounds
of different types should be handled on separate outputs.
The physical output for the selected sound engine is set by the Dest
(Destination) setting – see below.
Range: Off (Default), Org, Pno, Syn
DEST
The Dest (Destination) setting determines to which output(s) the sound
engine selected for the Sub setting is routed.
Range: 1-2, 3-4, 3, 4”
* Note that the Reverb and Compressor effects are only present on
the Main outputs selected for a panel.
Then the next problem: I see no way at all to route any single sound sound to all 4 outputs at the same time. Nowhere in the section from the manual above is there a choice for 1-2 and 3-4, it's 1-2 or 3-4 or 3 or 4. At least that is how i interpret the manual - and I have never achieved output of the same on all four outputs either, not with my Stage 2, nor with the Stage 3.
The only way to a the same (or similar at least) sound on all four output is to make panel A a copy of panel B, or vice versa. Then route one panel to outputs 1-2, and the other panel 3-4, but then you also have to live with being without reverb, compression and rotary...
And there are any number of ways to accomplish exactly that.Fallboard wrote:This kind of sucks. I was hoping there was a mode where you could just have 3-4 be the same as 1-2
I mean, I can't be the only guy who would like to have one set of stereo outputs going to his amp and the other going to the mixer/DAW.