Question regarding building programs using panel A and B

[Knuckles]

Hello NS3 experienced users. Need Help to know more about building NS3 programs using Panels A and B.

I recently purchased my NS3 and have begun building programs associated with songs I play in a live band environment. I have successfully build NS3 programs that are reflected in Panels A and B of a program . But I still have questions. Not certain the NORD manual explains it after reading multiple times.

In Panel A and/or Panel B , I believe we have three independent choices of engaging/applying the three sound engines; Piano, Organ, Syn to a single Program. But I am wondering whether I can layer two syn sounds (creating a custom fat syn sound) only in a single Panel A ? and not engaging the other Piano/Organ sound engines within that Program panel A .

Also I am confused because in building a custom program using both panel A and B, how do I get both Panels A and B to play simultaneously to create a really fat/full sound. When pressing Panel A, the red light comes on; Panel B is blinking and visa versa.......so how do I engage both?

If Panel A and B can be played simultaneosly with two independent syn sounds in a program, then my issue of two syns in a single program can be solved.

Again, Coming from a from a Kronos/Triton Extreme/Roland background, it's a bit different on the NS3. But I really like the NORD user friendly features to build and tweaking programs on the fly.

Thanks for the help.
KR

[Mr_-G-]

A program stores both panels A and B, so to layer 2 synths you activate both panels. (Keep the illuminated panel button pressed and then press the other panel).
Now both lights should be on, the active panel (that you can edit with the knobs) is the blinking one.

[analogika]

If one Slot lamp is on and the other is blinking, BOTH slots are active. You’re hearing both of them. The flashing one is the one that all the controls on the panel are currently editing.

If only one of the lights up, then, whichever one is lit is the one you’re hearing and editing.

[anotherscott]

I am wondering whether I can layer two syn sounds (creating a custom fat syn sound) only in a single Panel A ?

No. You are limited to one synth sound per panel. If you need to play two synth sounds at once, you need to use both panels (one synth sound in each).

how do I get both Panels A and B to play simultaneously

Press both buttons. As mentioned, if one light is solid and the other is blinking, you have already done it successfully.

[BuckW]

Other than synth output (volume) is there an easy way to the blend or mix between A & B? It's simple with this scenario of just two synths but clumsy at best if piano and/or organ are added.

[Berretje]

Other than synth output (volume) is there an easy way to the blend or mix between A & B? It's simple with this scenario of just two synths but clumsy at best if piano and/or organ are added.

You can use the morph function (used with the mod wheel for example) to control the volumes of each part in your program.

Gr
Bart

[BuckW]

I don't like using mod wheel for anything except vibrato on solo. I hate losing a hand just for that.

If i like the way a program sounds with the mod wheel on I'll leave it there which sucks for the next program. Also no good way to move morphs from mod wheel to after touch or control pedal.

[anotherscott]

I don't like using mod wheel for anything except vibrato on solo. I hate losing a hand just for that.

And on s Stage, aftertouch is generally much better for adding vibrato.

But I agree about losing a hand, and would be more inclined to morph using control pedal than wheel, unless I had the pedal already assigned o something else, or perhaps it was for some effect where I wanted finer control (which I find easier by hand than by foot).

If i like the way a program sounds with the mod wheel on I'll leave it there which sucks for the next program.

Hmmm. I don't have a Stage at the moment, but typically (or at least by luck, on the boards I've had and used mod wheel on), if the mod wheel is up and you switch to a new program, the new sound comes in as if the mod wheel is down, until you move the mod wheel, which is how I'd want it to work. I mean, what are the odds that you want a newly-invoked program to come in with the mod wheel up? (If that's the sound you wanted, you'd have likely programmed it in in the first place.) The Stage doesn't work that way? It reads the position of the mod wheel when you invoke a new program? That's not how I'd want it to work...

[ericL]

Other than synth output (volume) is there an easy way to the blend or mix between A & B? It's simple with this scenario of just two synths but clumsy at best if piano and/or organ are added.

On my NS2, which is the earlier instrument but has similar architecture, here's how I manage volume between the various parts.

I have a Yamaha FC7 swell pedal connected to the Organ Swell jack and so that pedal is ALWAYS in control of my organ's level (I use a fair amount of organ). I use a second Yamaha FC7 pedal connected to the Control Pedal jack and I use Control Pedal morph frequently on the Synth or External to bring things in or adjust balance. I also do a "reverse morph" quite often which is very effective to quickly change sounds completely. For example, with the pedal at 0, I am actively playing a split with organ to the left and lead synth to the right. Then I rock the pedal up to full and it switches sounds to be a piano layered with synth sound across the entire keyboard. This kind of thing is very easy and intuitive on the NS.

If I run across a more esoteric program where the two pedals won't do it all for me, I will use the Mod Wheel as another source of volume control.