NS3 Bug reports etc.

[DanielD71]

I've looked at all bugs found and I would like to thank everyone, specially @baekgaard !
The bug sheet is a nice initiative and will help Clavia to find all bugs into a single document and future NS3 owners
will be able to see if the bugs they have is a new one or one already sent to Clavia.

Thanks everyone!!!

Regards

[cvbtec1960]

I was playing around with my NS3 Compact and found out that when I switch on the Chorus 1 or 2 effect the sound level drops quit a lot.
I measured it with my Fluke289 and the drop is about 3dB. In the low area the drop is even larger with about 4dB. I don't know if my ns2 ex had the same behaviour.
The thing is, that you need to turn up the volume when using the chorus and the low drop cuts the warmth of the sound.

[Ecaroh]

Same here, also just reproduced the error. I've added it to the bugsheet and will forward again to Nord... I've added the two of you to the bugsheet, and also used some of the wording above in the bugreport.

I am not sure that connection a non compatible pedal (continuous sustain) can be called strictly a "bug", even if actually doing the same on NS2 would not freeze the boot...

Sorry, little off-topic but related to this: I have been long time asking Clavia for a single continuous pedal. To me it's very irritating that you can either have triple pedal or single on-off pedal. In latter case, which comes with Stages purchase you cannot have dynamic pedal behavior or pedal noises. In other words, your Stage comes with lacking very important features. Ok, then you need to buy triple pedal. Problem with it (besides the reasonably high price) is that it has quite large footprint. I'd really like to have more room for my other pedals. In gig situation I just use sustain and I practically never use those other two. If I am forced to have those other two pedals there, it would be great to have at least a chance to control some features with them. It's probably lot to ask, but it would be great if you could program different functions or CC-messages to them. In this current state these two pedals are quite useless to me.

To sum my view: Clavia should make either a continuos single pedal (which comes with Stages pianos) or expand usability of triple pedal.

[baekgaard]

Thanks for encouragement, @DanielD71, and thanks to yourself -- and to everyone else -- contributing, describing, reproducing and thus helping Nord to eventually triage the bugs

@maxpiano, I would call it a bug still. I agree that it is a scenario not happening too often, but an OS in a keyboard should never (as in NEVER) and in no circumstances just hang without reporting what is happening and with no option to continue. My guess is that it tries to determine which kind of pedal has been plugged in initially, and if the resistance is like the DP-10 (which is around 10 kOhm when open and 0 when closed on one set of terminals) the Nord (that tests whether it is fully open, closed or varies between infinity and 500 Ohm for the triple pedal) somehow gets this completely wrong and loops around or crashes or something else weird.

Now, if you put in an old worn pedal, one someone spilled a soft drink on, or maybe one where the cable has been squeezed, then you could get into the same situation -- and have no idea why the board isn't even booting up.

So at least an error message is needed.

Good software handles errors gracefully and tells the user what to do, in case the system cannot solve the situation on its own.

But I think it is a minor issue with a simple workaround (and it's therefore labelled as a minor issue also in the bugsheet).

@DJKeys I agree, #18 has no workaround in the normal case of using the external section as intended, so I labelled it as a major bug instead of a medium.

[baekgaard]

To sum my view: Clavia should make either a continuos single pedal (which comes with Stages pianos) or expand usability of triple pedal.

I would really like a single (continous) pedal that would work with the Nord! I've been wondering if I could make some kind of contraption that would convert the signal levels from a DP-10, but I'm not sure how well it would work. Needs a little additional analysis, I think.

I would also like to have "keys off" samples on the Rhodes, but that is another story...

[ibljula]

Where can I find the bugsheet?

[baekgaard]

Where can I find the bugsheet?

Here:

[baekgaard]

I was playing around with my NS3 Compact and found out that when I switch on the Chorus 1 or 2 effect the sound level drops quit a lot.
I measured it with my Fluke289 and the drop is about 3dB. In the low area the drop is even larger with about 4dB. I don't know if my ns2 ex had the same behaviour.
The thing is, that you need to turn up the volume when using the chorus and the low drop cuts the warmth of the sound.

i've noticed this too the other day, but didn't have time to investigate it. Now I did, and it's easy to reproduce: Play a simple sine wave from the synth, route it though the effects 2 section and select the chorus 1 effect (at amount 0). Alternating the effect on and off, you can easily hear the difference in levels.

I quickly tested my Electro 3 also, and there the levels are about equal with or without chorus.

[nico4802]

Hello...

I think there is another bug is my NS3 88...

when :
> OUTPUT ROUTING MODE = "monitor"
> OUTPUT MONITOR PANEL A = "stereo 1&2 3&4"
> OUTPUT MONITOR PANEL B = "stereo 1&2 3&4",

I can't hear the organ section from ch3 and ch4 output jacks...

[nico4802]

in fact I think that organ section never outputs to ch3 and ch4...
you confirm ?