Arpeggiator lagg

[Vileza]

Hello,

Is there anyone else besides me experiencing lagg issues when using the arpeggiator on the Nord Lead 4?

This is my setup.
I have the Elektron machinedrum MK2 sending midi out (tempo out) to my Lead4 which is synced to external. The arpeggiator is also synced to master clock.

I press play on the machinedrum and the sequence starts. I have one note on the machinedrum as a trigger for the arpeggiator to start. When the sequence starts and the note is triggered the arpeggiator starts out of sync. Its as if the sound from the arpeggiator is lagging like millisecond or something.

Occasionally the arpeggiator actually runs in sync. isn't that weird? But this only happens if I restart the sequence a couple of times. I mean like 8 times out 10 its out of sync.

The LFO's and the delay are synced with perfect timing however.

I have also tried having the Nord synced to the the computer with Logic pro as my master clock via usb. Same problem.

Any ideas / suggestions ?

[Muziksculp]

Hello,

Is there anyone else besides me experiencing lagg issues when using the arpeggiator on the Nord Lead 4?

This is my setup.
I have the Elektron machinedrum MK2 sending midi out (tempo out) to my Lead4 which is synced to external. The arpeggiator is also synced to master clock.

I press play on the machinedrum and the sequence starts. I have one note on the machinedrum as a trigger for the arpeggiator to start. When the sequence starts and the note is triggered the arpeggiator starts out of sync. Its as if the sound from the arpeggiator is lagging like millisecond or something.

Occasionally the arpeggiator actually runs in sync. isn't that weird? But this only happens if I restart the sequence a couple of times. I mean like 8 times out 10 its out of sync.

The LFO's and the delay are synced with perfect timing however.

I have also tried having the Nord synced to the the computer with Logic pro as my master clock via usb. Same problem.

Any ideas / suggestions ?

Hi Vileza,

I will try to help you get your Arp. Sync. issue fixed. Although I don't use machinedrum. So, I can't help you with any settings related to machinedrum.

I'm using Cubase 7.5.2 on PC. with the NL4 (Rack).

I remember having this type of issue as well. and after looking deeper into what might be causing this, and adjusting my sync setting in Cubase 7.5 , I think my Arp Sync. with Cubase 7.5 is pretty tight as far as timing goes. no slack. (which I did experience when I first started using the NL4 Arp/s).

Here is what I did :

1. Go to the 'Sound' Menu of the NL4 (by Pressing the Shift + Sound buttons). The first menu you encounter is the Master Control Kbd. Sync menu (also refer to your NL4 user's manual page 44) : Menu 1. has three options Off, Soft, On.
The NL4 is set to Soft as a default. Change that to On.

2. Make sure the device that is transmitting the midi-clock which will be your master clock, that the NL4 will be syncing to. is actually transmitting Midi Clock to the NL4. (I have this enabled and routed to NL4 in Cubase 7.5 synchronization preferences).

3. If your master clock device has an option to send Midi Clock in Stop Mode, then enable this option (I have this option enabled in Cubase 7.5)

4. If your master clock device has an option to 'Always send start message' , disable this option. (I have this option disabled in Cubase 7.5)

Finally, make sure you have Local = Off on the NL4. which could cause funky behavior, since you will be getting a midi-loop back if it is set to on.

Also note that if your switch off your NL4, and then Switch it ON, your Local is set to ON as a default, also check the Sync. setting to make sure it is set to ON , if you had powered off and then ON your NL4 since this is another default parameter.

It would be nice to have a way to disable the default setting. That's one reason I keep my NL4 (Rack) Powered Up 24/7

Well... I hope this helps you fix the Arp Sync issue you are experiencing.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

[Vileza]

Thank you for replying Muziksculp.

I followed your guide step by step and the results are a mix of good news and bad news.
Some improvements have been made, but main problem is still there.

Before, when I pressed stop on the machinedrum, the arp. sequence on the Lead would continue to run endlessly until I was forced to press the panic button. Now it stops whenever I stop the sequence on the machinedrum. This is really an improvement.
It also feels as if the arp. is running much better tempo wise. It doesn’t run out of sync but…. Whenever the arp. sequence is triggered to start, it runs from different starting position within the arp sequence. I ‘m not sure how to explain this, but it’s sounds as if the arp. starts in a different “note” every time it’s being triggered. So the general feeling is that it sounds out of sync even though it’s actually not, at least not when it comes to the tempo.

I still have to try with the computer as the master clock; maybe I get different results there.

[Muziksculp]

Thank you for replying Muziksculp.

I followed your guide step by step and the results are a mix of good news and bad news.
Some improvements have been made, but main problem is still there.

Before, when I pressed stop on the machinedrum, the arp. sequence on the Lead would continue to run endlessly until I was forced to press the panic button. Now it stops whenever I stop the sequence on the machinedrum. This is really an improvement.
It also feels as if the arp. is running much better tempo wise. It doesn’t run out of sync but…. Whenever the arp. sequence is triggered to start, it runs from different starting position within the arp sequence. I ‘m not sure how to explain this, but it’s sounds as if the arp. starts in a different “note” every time it’s being triggered. So the general feeling is that it sounds out of sync even though it’s actually not, at least not when it comes to the tempo.

I still have to try with the computer as the master clock; maybe I get different results there.

Hi Vileza,

You are very Welcome.

Since I don't use/own a machinedrum, I can't really tell what might be causing the odd arp. sync. issue you are experiencing when you stop and start the machinedrum to trigger the NL4 arp/s . The only thing I can think of is that the machinedrum might be sending a midi start message at all times, this is the option that I have disabled in Cubase 7.5

Here is one more tip you might want to give a try. If you have your NL4 parts set to midi channels (1,2,3,4) , Change them by assigning them to midi channels (2,3,4,5) via the NL4 Midi Menu (SHIFT + MIDI) assign slots (A to 2, B to 3, C to 4, D to 5) , and see if this helps in anyway. This is how I have mine setup, for some mysterious reason, I had odd stuff happen when I had it setup to (1,2,3,4) with Cubase 7.5

Cheers,
Muziksculp