Synth Patching?Any Pros with some advice?

[titanium]

I was wondering if there is a downloadable format template such as the ones in welshes synthesizer cookbook for the synth patches?This would allow for the basic sound of each patch to be recreated on many other synth's.

For me anyway I see way to many tutorials on how to make the same sound on thousands of synths and softsynths.No doubt,these are very helpfull but do not include a list of parameters ,making them hard to create on another synth.(Not trying to make some realy good people feel bad.I Know they devoted much time and energy into these tutorials)It would be nice If some synth Pro would be willing to share some of his secrets with us.Something like Johannes "synth secrets" for the Nord Stage EX.Or at least point us to some good material for learning synthesis.Welshes cookbook should be one of them?

Edit:Could a moderator move it to the general synthesizer forumn.I did not see that a new Forum has been Created!

[monsterjazzlicks]

i thought you knew it all anyway ??? !!!

[Darren]

This would be interesting. Are you thinking of a parameter converter where you select a source synth model, parameter and value then select the target device to get a parameter value that would generate an equivalent effect?

Would require a lot of input from owners of various devices and of course some scientific way of creating the algorithms rather than relying on the subjective nature of ones ears.

[Frantz]

Nice Topic !!

I got the impression some softsynth are blurring the real thing used behind their knobs.
Yet, behind the scene, I imagine only this "few" knobs : VCF (LP, HP,Reso) , VCO, VCA, LFO, ADSR, MOD, VEL, Unisons/intervals, Mono/Legato/Glide, Waveforms (SuperSaw), Detuning, Kb tracking.
To figure out in advance what combination will make the wanted sound is not always easy
For me, it helps to get used to each knob mentioned above by trial / error experience + have a look to a general encyclopedia for the theory, just to draw in head an idea of what happens to the waveform when a knob is turned.
Finally, I stick to the short list above, and, Titanium I share your quest for having of "a list of parameters to make sound many other synths", I'd like to see a complete list with explanations.

Topic moved to the section you asked.

[titanium]

Yes Darren,I was kind of getting at a midi program that could essentialy preset all the important parts of a sound.However, like you have said it would likely turn out to be a huge operation.So then I was thinking simpler?A midi program where you could dial in each parameter("I imagine only these "few" knobs : VCF (LP, HP,Reso) , VCO, VCA, LFO, ADSR, MOD, VEL, Unisons/intervals, Mono/Legato/Glide, Waveforms (SuperSaw), Detuning, Kb tracking.").Afterwards through midi set each to the matching parameter on the synth.Then Include a "notes section" where you would jot down the important filters and effects etc.CTLR hack?

Thanks monsterjazzlicks.I have had some experience.But "basics" is all I know and a little more from experiment's on others synth's.The rest is ear which I am still working on.

[titanium]

Here is a cool synth pro with good advice and tutorial.He does not include a list of parameters but makes up for it with detailed information.In this video he is working a sofware version of the DX7.

[DJKeys]

There is an excellent tutorial on subtractive synthesis in Chapter 9 of the Nord Wave manual:

http://www.nordkeyboards.com/downloads/ ... 0(eng).pdf

-dj

[titanium]

Thanks it fills some of the gaps found in the EX manual!

[DJKeys]

And, it is a great basic lesson for anyone does not have a lot of experience programming from the old days, IE 1980s LOL-

-dj