Are semi weighted keys less expressive?
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Are semi weighted keys less expressive?
I’ve been playing a Nord electro 6D since I started 4 years ago. I had lessons as a child which gave me a head start. I have come a long way in the last 4 years, but strictly on semi weighted keys. I am sluggish on fully weighted keys.
I just got a job in a touring band, so now I need a Nord stage 4. Trying to decide which keyboard to get. I will be on stage in less than two months, so I’m not sure if I have time to get used to fully weighted. But am I missing out on significant expression with the semi weighted?
Primary Tones: B3, piano, Rhodes, synth
I just got a job in a touring band, so now I need a Nord stage 4. Trying to decide which keyboard to get. I will be on stage in less than two months, so I’m not sure if I have time to get used to fully weighted. But am I missing out on significant expression with the semi weighted?
Primary Tones: B3, piano, Rhodes, synth
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Re: Are semi weighted keys less expressive?
You don't have the opportunity to test play the different keyboards, right?
I can't really play piano on my Stage 3 Compact which has the same key action as your Electro 6D. If you do, you are good to go with a Stage 4 Compact which now has triple sensor action - massively improved piano playing on that keybed. I don't call that one a semi weighted action - to me, it's a waterfall keyboard with rather stiff spring action.
The HA action on the other side is weighted, but slightly lighter than many pure piano actions - so probably an option as well; but not that good for organ playing.
How are you planning? Adding a Stage 4 to your Electro 6D or replacing the Electro by the Stage? If it's the former, a Stage 4 HA could be a great addition to your Electro. And you have a fallback instrument as well.
I can't really play piano on my Stage 3 Compact which has the same key action as your Electro 6D. If you do, you are good to go with a Stage 4 Compact which now has triple sensor action - massively improved piano playing on that keybed. I don't call that one a semi weighted action - to me, it's a waterfall keyboard with rather stiff spring action.
The HA action on the other side is weighted, but slightly lighter than many pure piano actions - so probably an option as well; but not that good for organ playing.
How are you planning? Adding a Stage 4 to your Electro 6D or replacing the Electro by the Stage? If it's the former, a Stage 4 HA could be a great addition to your Electro. And you have a fallback instrument as well.
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Re: Are semi weighted keys less expressive?
If you are accustomed to playing the SW action, and your first sound listed is B3, I would advise you select the Stage 4 Compact.
In my opinion, you do not have enough time to acclimate yourself to an entirely new keyboard action. The weighted piano action will be especially challenging for you to play organ if you’ve never done it before. Another upside is that the Compact will certainly be easier to haul around due to the lighter carry weight.
I’ll take a page from the cphollis playbook and say that you can always add a weighted controller under the Stage 4 Compact for piano playing in the future should you want to expand your horizons. I don’t think this is that time though.
One piece of advice if you’re going out touring - invest in a quality carry case or gig bag for your keyboard. Spending a few hundred dollars on a protective case is most worthwhile for protecting an instrument worth an order of magnitude more than that.
In my opinion, you do not have enough time to acclimate yourself to an entirely new keyboard action. The weighted piano action will be especially challenging for you to play organ if you’ve never done it before. Another upside is that the Compact will certainly be easier to haul around due to the lighter carry weight.
I’ll take a page from the cphollis playbook and say that you can always add a weighted controller under the Stage 4 Compact for piano playing in the future should you want to expand your horizons. I don’t think this is that time though.
One piece of advice if you’re going out touring - invest in a quality carry case or gig bag for your keyboard. Spending a few hundred dollars on a protective case is most worthwhile for protecting an instrument worth an order of magnitude more than that.
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Re: Are semi weighted keys less expressive?
I'd start with the NS4 Compact -- it's very expressive for instruments other than acoustic, electric and digital pianos.
For those, you want a weighted keybed action for expressiveness. It's a different technique that requires a bit of hand strength, which takes a short time to develop.
So, as you go along, you might want a weighted controller beneath the NS4C, which is what I do. Piano parts are played on the weighted controller, everything else on the NS4C directly.
Nothing wrong with the NE6D, as you have the same tones as the NS4C -- just SO much more you can do with them!
For those, you want a weighted keybed action for expressiveness. It's a different technique that requires a bit of hand strength, which takes a short time to develop.
So, as you go along, you might want a weighted controller beneath the NS4C, which is what I do. Piano parts are played on the weighted controller, everything else on the NS4C directly.
Nothing wrong with the NE6D, as you have the same tones as the NS4C -- just SO much more you can do with them!
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Re: Are semi weighted keys less expressive?
Ooops, @rustymike beat me to it!
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Re: Are semi weighted keys less expressive?
if your Electro has the patches you need...maybe you find a used weighted "something" and connect it via MIDI to get used to weighted when you need it as an add on and save yourself a boatload of money?
I play so little piano that the S4C is the right choice for me...if that changes, no way am I giving up the NS4 and getting stuck in a trade off with sluggish organ and synth playing...but that is just me.
I play so little piano that the S4C is the right choice for me...if that changes, no way am I giving up the NS4 and getting stuck in a trade off with sluggish organ and synth playing...but that is just me.
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