NS4 layer scene II button - same sound different FX?

[mozart999uk]

I can't seem to do this:

For example (hypothetical - just to illustrate)

Layer scene 1 - white grand layered with harpsichord - dry
Layer scene 2 - white grand layered with harpsichord with reverb and delay


My actual situation is that I have a clav and harpsichord layered together with wah / amp and verb and I wanted a way to quickly switch to the same 2 sounds but with different FX using the layer scene button.

I can set up two different programs so not a biggie but I just wanted to check I'm not missing anything with regards the layer scene button.....

[WannitBBBad]

By design, effects are assigned to the layer so whatever effects you use on that layer for Layer Scene 1 will be the same if it's used for Layer Scene 2. An option would be to assign morphs to the MW or Control Pedal to increase/decrease effect amounts. Good luck

[spradders]

Another option would be to have a harpsichord sample in the synth section... then you can use Layer Scene to switch between 2 white grands (one in each piano slot; one with, one without reverb) and two harspichords (in the first two synth slots; one with, one without reverb).

It's not elegant nor what you were trying to do, but the result would be the same.

[WannitBBBad]

Another option would be to have a harpsichord sample in the synth section... then you can use Layer Scene to switch between 2 white grands (one in each piano slot; one with, one without reverb) and two harspichords (in the first two synth slots; one with, one without reverb).

It's not elegant nor what you were trying to do, but the result would be the same.

A good option if the Nord Sample Library 4.0 was fully populated. I just checked and unfortunately there isn't a Piano category posted yet where one would find the harpsichord.

[mozart999uk]

Thanks all. Confirms that it's not just me

I'll do a workaround

[The Happy Keys]

Yes, It's a pity. That's a severe implication. But I found a suitable workaround by swapping the instruments within a section from A to B (to C if applicable).

Your example would look like
Layer scene 1
- Piano A: white grand layered with harpsichord - dry
- Piano B: turned off/empty
Layer scene 2 -
Piano A: turned off/empty
- Piano B: white grand layered with harpsichord with reverb and delay

You "fool" the system into there believe that's completely different instruments as you "break" the logical connection and all of a sudden it accepts and performs the intended changes. However, a swift morph between the two layer scenes isn't possible as such but needs to be assigned to a morph in Layer scene II and needs to be triggered by assigning it to e.g. a pedal or the morph wheel.

The advanced scenario could look like:
- Piano A: white grand layered with harpsichord - dry
- Piano B: Wurly without effect
- Synth A: Pop Bass with low volume
- Synth B: turned off
Layer scene 2 -
- Piano A: Wurly with effect
- Piano B: white grand layered with harpsichord with reverb and delay
- Synth A: turned off
- Synth B: Pop Bass with high volume

I hope that helps. Keep on rocking'

[M_a_c]

Yes, It's a pity. That's a severe implication. But I found a suitable workaround by swapping the instruments within a section from A to B (to C if applicable).

Your example would look like
Layer scene 1
- Piano A: white grand layered with harpsichord - dry
- Piano B: turned off/empty
Layer scene 2 -
Piano A: turned off/empty
- Piano B: white grand layered with harpsichord with reverb and delay

You "fool" the system into there believe that's completely different instruments as you "break" the logical connection and all of a sudden it accepts and performs the intended changes. However, a swift morph between the two layer scenes isn't possible as such but needs to be assigned to a morph in Layer scene II and needs to be triggered by assigning it to e.g. a pedal or the morph wheel.

The advanced scenario could look like:
- Piano A: white grand layered with harpsichord - dry
- Piano B: Wurly without effect
- Synth A: Pop Bass with low volume
- Synth B: turned off
Layer scene 2 -
- Piano A: Wurly with effect
- Piano B: white grand layered with harpsichord with reverb and delay
- Synth A: turned off
- Synth B: Pop Bass with high volume

I hope that helps. Keep on rocking'

Yeah! This is working with the available Options instead of waiting for updates - that´s the Way!