Wish List for Nord Keyboards

Everything about Nord keyboards in general; which one to choose, the sound manager, sample editor, and general discussion about the sample and piano libraries.
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Re: Wish List for Nord Keyboards

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white elefant wrote: 29 Sep 2024, 21:46 I would love a Nord Second Keyboard on top of my Crumar Seven with the Organ and the actual NS synth Engine. No Pianos, but wheel and bender. Only Keyboard like this on market is the Yamaha yc61. But its synthmachine without samples is to weak.
Just get rid of the YC61 - a great Organ, but a not so intuitive interface and a strange Selection of Motif-Samples...

I have a Roland VR-09 with a Neo-Ventilaor on top of my Seven for years.
Even if I´m used to have the NS4-73 or the NE5-73 under my hands,
Sounds and Options of the VR-09 are very impressive and satisfying (especially for this budget-key).

And thats the Point back to the Wish-List:
A Nord Key to be added to a 88er or 73er key standing below
with (again) Pitch and Modulation Control, the Organ-Sim , a "small" Wave2 or at least the known Electro Sampler
and all in a small housing, so I can use it standalone for rehearsals...

Oops - Sounds like a Nord Electro6D61 with Pitch and Mod...
:angel:
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Re: Wish List for Nord Keyboards

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Piano engine:

Edit single note fine-tune and single note volume (possible self made correction of piano samples flaws)

Nord Grand 1: legacy velocity curves (as they were till 1.54 firmware)
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Re: Wish List for Nord Keyboards

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It would be a great help to have an update for the Nord Electro6 firmware to make possible to be able to perform a split that includes external KB ... that is, split the three engines respectively on external KB and on the two sides of the normal keyboard split (e.g. organ on external keyboard, piano on split lo and sample on split up

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Re: Wish List for Nord Keyboards

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elsongs wrote: 23 Dec 2023, 08:05 MY TOP 5 NORD WISH LIST

1. More piano sample memory.
2. More piano sample memory.
3. More piano sample memory.
4. More piano sample memory.
5. More piano sample memory.
Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutalllallalalalalalallalalalallylyyyyyyyyy!
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Re: Wish List for Nord Keyboards

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The Nord is a CULT. I am NOT convinced by the sounds of the pianos. IMO They may do for a gig, cut thru, but they have no nuance, they pretty much 2 dimensional and are spiky on my ears.
Seriously, why confine your whole piano library to 2 gb? It's farcical having to delete pianos to make room. You can't even buy a 2gb consumer drive!!! Minimum is 16gb. Why not 256Gb - that will cost a consumer $10 or 1 TB which is only $100. Nord would get these drives far cheaper?
Or a way to use sounds on your own USB? A VST player. If Nord continues to confine itself in this silly way it will lose market share. The Synchron Pianos come in at 359gb, we are dealing in minuscule amounts and it's wrong.
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Re: Wish List for Nord Keyboards

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M_a_c wrote: 01 Oct 2024, 13:53
white elefant wrote: 29 Sep 2024, 21:46 I would love a Nord Second Keyboard on top of my Crumar Seven with the Organ and the actual NS synth Engine. No Pianos, but wheel and bender. Only Keyboard like this on market is the Yamaha yc61. But its synthmachine without samples is to weak.
Just get rid of the YC61 - a great Organ, but a not so intuitive interface and a strange Selection of Motif-Samples...

I have a Roland VR-09 with a Neo-Ventilaor on top of my Seven for years.
Even if I´m used to have the NS4-73 or the NE5-73 under my hands,
Sounds and Options of the VR-09 are very impressive and satisfying (especially for this budget-key).

And thats the Point back to the Wish-List:
A Nord Key to be added to a 88er or 73er key standing below
with (again) Pitch and Modulation Control, the Organ-Sim , a "small" Wave2 or at least the known Electro Sampler
and all in a small housing, so I can use it standalone for rehearsals...

Oops - Sounds like a Nord Electro6D61 with Pitch and Mod...
:angel:
A Yamaha CK61 comes in at 15lbs and is laid out very similar to a stage. It's really good to have around. It's organ is pretty good, its EPs too, the pianos are passable. It has synth keys but good ones, I can play piano on them. The one thing I do not like is they narrowed the octave width to make the keyboard smaller, Sound Wise it's great for quick rehearsal or even a pub gig.
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ZeroZero wrote: 29 Dec 2024, 19:03 Seriously, why confine your whole piano library to 2 gb? It's farcical having to delete pianos to make room. You can't even buy a 2gb consumer drive!!! Minimum is 16gb. Why not 256Gb - that will cost a consumer $10 or 1 TB which is only $100. Nord would get these drives far cheaper?
Or a way to use sounds on your own USB? A VST player. If Nord continues to confine itself in this silly way it will lose market share. The Synchron Pianos come in at 359gb, we are dealing in minuscule amounts and it's wrong.
That question was answered in this same thread, perhaps you did not see it:
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... and in addtition the adressing of the Memory is a difficult thing. Look at MS-Windows, where only the premium programs can use the whole amount of Memory you`d built into your PC. You can implement up Hardware to 128GB, but only the fewest programs are able to adress it. It´s the same with Keyboards and the Samples inside - it is really a hard (and expensive) work to adress memory correct. And a bigger Memory is just a different memory for the system - you had to start adressing complete from the beginning :crazy: . This is the main reason, why all current Keyboard-Updates still struggeling with the amount-change of Memory...
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Re: Wish List for Nord Keyboards

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Mr_-G- wrote: 29 Dec 2024, 23:22
ZeroZero wrote: 29 Dec 2024, 19:03 Seriously, why confine your whole piano library to 2 gb? It's farcical having to delete pianos to make room. You can't even buy a 2gb consumer drive!!! Minimum is 16gb. Why not 256Gb - that will cost a consumer $10 or 1 TB which is only $100. Nord would get these drives far cheaper?
Or a way to use sounds on your own USB? A VST player. If Nord continues to confine itself in this silly way it will lose market share. The Synchron Pianos come in at 359gb, we are dealing in minuscule amounts and it's wrong.
That question was answered in this same thread, perhaps you did not see it:
viewtopic.php?p=148874#p148874


OK but still no excuse. The pianos are cheap. Not up to standard and you cannot have a series of decent sampled pianos in 1gb no matter what. How about the Sound manager on a UsB and third party vsts to load into this fast flash memory in the same way as others - loading a header in first, so that the rest of samples can be called when required. Lots of tech does this. Igts really not good enough gthe way things are. The sounds are poor, they have no body or character, no quality no three dimensionality. The architecture of the panel is good, but the board is compromised. I use only the Hammond and the Stockhold. All the other sounds are at best "OK" ish.
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Re: Wish List for Nord Keyboards

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It is quite easy, but unrealistic, to ask for imaginary VSTs (running under a similarly imaginary OS) to do things that are architecturally quite complicated.

Here in the forum there are various posts from several people (if I remember correct one was an embedded systems programmer) explaining that writing to that kind of RAM is slow, while reading is really fast and that is non-volatile. It seems that the USB stick-style drives cannot be used for the instrument RAM.

However if the sounds are not to your taste, that is a different matter. Is it all pianos that sound 'spiky'? What is your routing and amplification setup?
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