Stage 4 Song Mode ?

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Re: Stage 4 Song Mode ?

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This is the compatibility list from CME's support page.
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Re: Stage 4 Song Mode ?

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Thanks Swampfox,

not really much information available about Nord in that list, but I think it can be assumed that it should work:
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Schorsch wrote:
maxpiano wrote:
Schorsch wrote:Anyone tried the CME WIDI device and can confirm that the Nord MIDI ports provide sufficient power for this device?
I tried with Yamaha MD-BT01 and it works
Yes, the Yamaha MD-BT01 gets enough power from my Nord Stage 3s and works fine here too. But the CME WIDI Master, at 37mW, consumes 42% more power than the MD-BT01 at 26mW. Therefore, I wonder if the power provided at the MIDI ports of the Nord is still sufficient for the CME WIDI Master, especially because the power supply of devices via MIDI ports is not standardised.
I’m using one on both of my Stage 3s. Works great.
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I ordered the CME WIDI Master and will check it with the Nord Stage 4 on the weekend.
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superbender wrote:
anotherscott wrote:If you have an iPhone, you can do it via bluetooth, by plugging a CME WIDI device into the back of your Nord. (I don't think that works with an Android smartphone, though.)
Which one can you recommend?
WIDI Master and WIDI jack use the 5-pin connectors. WIDI Jack is more universal, in case you ever want to use it on some other keyboard that does not supply MIDI power, or if its connectors are spaced farther away from each other than typical. WIDI Master is more "invisible," there's no dangling piece to keep out of the way or attach somewhere else. I've never used either on a Nord, though I think its connectors are close enough together that either should work fine.

WIDI Uhost uses the USB connector instead of the 5-pin connector. The Nord should be able to use that as well, if you prefer (e.g. if you want to keep your 5-pin connectors free for other purposes).
Schorsch wrote:Anyone tried the CME WIDI device and can confirm that the Nord MIDI ports provide sufficient power for this device?
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the CME WIDI Master, at 37mW, consumes 42% more power than the MD-BT01 at 26mW. Therefore, I wonder if the power provided at the MIDI ports of the Nord is still sufficient for the CME WIDI Master, especially because the power supply of devices via MIDI ports is not standardised.
MIDI Out connectors can be 5v, 3,3v, or unpowered. The CME devices work with either 5v or 3.3v, and do not require an unusual amount of power. As the chart referenced indicates, people have already reported success with Electro and Stage models. AFAIK, on any keyboard, as long as the 5-pin provides power at all, it can power one of these.
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Re: Stage 4 Song Mode ?

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superbender wrote:I ordered the CME WIDI Master and will check it with the Nord Stage 4 on the weekend.
I got the device and tried it. Everthing works as expected - really cool! Thanks for the recommendation!
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florence wrote:
superbender wrote:
Regarding the mount I found this https://www.w3brr.nl/de/shop/nord-mic-s ... et-holder/ .If you only use one keybed it is perfect. Hopefully also for the NS4C.

thanks for this nice link !
Hi! And yes, the NS4C is supported as it uses the same form factor as the NS3C - happy days! :thumbup:
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Re: Stage 4 Song Mode ?

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superbender wrote:
superbender wrote:I ordered the CME WIDI Master and will check it with the Nord Stage 4 on the weekend.
I got the device and tried it. Everthing works as expected - really cool! Thanks for the recommendation!
Don't forget to check the firmware versions on these. There is an update tool available. Mine were all out of date and I updated them easily.
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Re: Stage 4 Song Mode ?

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Got my Stage 4 Compact a few days ago.
The missing Song-Mode feature makes me thinking about alternatives "all day long".......

As others posted, "the way back" to how I organized my Stage 2, "program by program", seems to be a short termed solution, although I'll have to spend some hours for this.

My sheet music software is rather old and doesn't support midi data sending per title.
So I think about buing a new some, e.g. Bandhelper.

Here is my question, a bit off-topic:
We play a few songs where I need 3 or 4 programs (on my Stage 3 no problem thanks to Song Mode) per title.
Is there any setup possible in Bandhelper to send Midi program changes within a song?
Perhaps "per klick" on a virtual button on the page at the desired position?
Or how did you solve that kind of requirements?
Split the song into 3 or 4 pdf titels?
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Re: Stage 4 Song Mode ?

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I use camelot pro on my iPad. Works great with songs, scenes and pdf's.
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