HERE IT COMES STAGE 4 ?

[hughes]

If this statement is true and still applies. Maybe that is the reason why we have to wait such a long time for an actual instrument.

“The DSP chips that Nord uses in all of the current products is end-of-life'd and have been for years. The extended production commitment from NXP to continue to produce the chips is coming to a close and if I'm not mistaken all of NXP's DSP56Fxx Family are either now no longer available for purchase are will be unavailable for purchase in the coming months. ….”
Posted on 26th of Aug 2020.
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[Valpurgis]

»The DSP chips that Nord uses in all of the current products is end-of-life'd and have been for years. The extended production commitment from NXP to continue to produce the chips is coming to a close and if I'm not mistaken all of NXP's DSP56Fxx Family are either now no longer available for purchase are will be unavailable for purchase in the coming months. ….”

Seems not correct: https://www.nxp.com/products/processors ... Processors

[cgrafx]

»The DSP chips that Nord uses in all of the current products is end-of-life'd and have been for years. The extended production commitment from NXP to continue to produce the chips is coming to a close and if I'm not mistaken all of NXP's DSP56Fxx Family are either now no longer available for purchase are will be unavailable for purchase in the coming months. ….”

Seems not correct: https://www.nxp.com/products/processors ... Processors

I'm the person that posted that information and it is still correct the NXP DSP56Fxx Family is "End of Life". The product family was launched in 2005 with a 10year lifespan.

If you click on any of the DSP product pages you will see right below the product family name "Not Recommended for New Designs".

However, I believe Nord has already shifted to a different DSP chip.

EDIT:
Just found the post about the DSP chip in the NS3

Just remark @Rusty Mike, "As several have said here, the discontinuation of the DSP manufacture forces them into...."
The NS2 used the DSPB56367, an 150MHz DSP from Motorola/NXP, the NS3 uses the ADSP21489, an 450MHz DSP from Analog Devices. The first one was discontinued, the second, as I can see is in production. I think that the big hardware/software change was between the NS2 and NS3.

[analogika]

All of our economic theorizing aside, informed or not…the state of the economy doesn’t provide an excuse for Clavia’s current malaise. I believe it was presented as such.

No, it was presented as context and possibly partial explanation.

It was not presented as an „excuse“ because Clavia doesn’t really need an „excuse“ for not having put out new products in a „timely“ manner.

[Gambold]

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[Valpurgis]

cgrafx. Not be picky but your statement from 2020 was «either now no longer available for purchase are will be unavailable for purchase in the coming months. ….»

[M1tsos]

>In this moment of crisis<

i'm sorry, but I have to push back on this - the world is not going through an economic "crisis" right now. Anyone who says so hasn't lived for very long, or at least isn't very aware of historical economic cycles.

Gambold, I don't know how old you are and how many "genuine" economical crisis you have lived through, but assuming all members of this forum are aged between 15 and 90 (and not 300), we're pretty much living through the same epoch. The fact that there have been worse historical times doesn't mean that in the current one everything is OK.

Maybe if one lives in a golden castle he's doing fine anyway. Or maybe in the US where you live you're doing fine, but here in Italy (and Europe) there's definitely a crisis which is very much "felt" on a day by day routine, and in this sense it is felt more than the 2009 one was. At least for my country, but I am sure this holds for other countries in Europe as well, and possibly Asia too:

1. Gasoline price has fluctuated a lot during the last three years, but in general there has been at least a 20-30% increase (by the way, gasoline costs here in EU three of four times more than in the US, by default);

2. House heating cost and electricity prices have skyrocketed, in many cases more than doubled;

3. Food prices have increased. I am not talking about eating at restaurants, I am talking about buying basic stuff at supermarkets;

4. Everything related to building and materials costs (as in house renewal, etc.) has increased to the point that if you ask today for a cost estimate for anything you might need to do in your house, and then ask again in 15 days time, prices may have changed already, usually in the upward direction;

5. For things like cars, and even big household items, the time it takes, from when you buy it until when it actually gets available, can be in the order of months.

There might have been worse historical moments but I don't remember having lived in any time worse than this.

Last I looked, unemployment is sitting under 3% in Germany, under 4% in the UK, and under 3.5% in the USA. Those are not the numbers that make up a recession. Other European countries are higher but most of them are sitting between 5-7%. This is just a few clicks over what most economists consider a "healthy" rate of 5%.

Unemployment rate doesn't necessarily tell how well a country is doing. The phrase "working poors" might be artificial English, but I am sure you know what that means. From a poll, one could be counted as "having a job" where in fact he earns not more than € 800 per month. I know many many people in that situation.

In greece now is cheaper to eat in restaurants instead of buying food and cooking yourself at home

Also most of the people from age 18 to 35 have jobs that they get paid from 400-600 euros per month.. and lowest house rent is 250 without heat . Electricity water etc.. all these costs extra.

[Gambold]

All of our economic theorizing aside, informed or not…the state of the economy doesn’t provide an excuse for Clavia’s current malaise. I believe it was presented as such.

No, it was presented as context and possibly partial explanation.

It was not presented as an „excuse“ because virtually no one apart from you seems to think that Clavia needs an „excuse“ for not having put out new products in a Gambold-conform timeframe.

I believe Gambold isn't worried about any "Gambold-conform timeframe", rather Nord's own timeframes: new releases have been progressively slowing down (e.g. new Electros used to be released every three years), sometimes almost grinding to a halt, whilst the competition keeps churning out new products. And that's what happens when a company starts to sink. It's as simple as that. I don't believe it to be the case since Nord's financially healthy and most of their products are still top-notch. Still, they definitely need to get back on track both with their hardware and software. For example, they don't offer anymore the best or one of the best clonewheels: they're just fine, and that's why they need to catch up and up their game. Can we all calm down and stop lashing out at people for their opinions?

[docbop]

I'm counting down the days to April NAMM and can't wait to visit the Nord booth - it will be my very first stop! I am feeling encouraged that Nord will have some surprises for us. As always, you can't please all the people all the time, so whatever they choose to showcase at NAMM will be thrilling for some and just ordinary or boring to others.

[agcohn]

I believe Gambold isn't worried about any "Gambold-conform timeframe", rather Nord's own timeframes: new releases have been progressively slowing down (e.g. new Electros used to be released every three years), sometimes almost grinding to a halt, whilst the competition keeps churning out new products. And that's what happens when a company starts to sink. It's as simple as that. I don't believe it to be the case since Nord's financially healthy and most of their products are still top-notch. Still, they definitely need to get back on track both with their hardware and software. For example, they don't offer anymore the best or one of the best clonewheels: they're just fine, and that's why they need to catch up and up their game. Can we all calm down and stop lashing out at people for their opinions?

When did the new releases actually start to slow down though? Before COVID? Before the global microchip shortage? I know that it was before the war in Ukraine and all of the associated global problems that have come along with that, but I doubt that is helping the situation.

All we can do is speculate, but I honestly don’t think a lot of people fully appreciate how much COVID effected small businesses like Nord around the world. Yes, the world has largely moved on from COVID at this point, but that doesn’t mean the economy and production has fully recovered. Yes, larger companies have started to return to their old form, but they have the resources to do so and some of that recovery is at the expense of smaller companies. Everything is more expensive now. I mean part of the reason I ended up with a Nord at the time I did (2021) was that I literally could not find a Yamaha P-515 or Roland 90x at the time, so my choice was practically just between a Nord and a Roland RD-2000. There was a time where you literally could not find a digital piano out there. It’s still hard to buy a new car due to supply-chain shortages.

To be completely honest, it is a miracle that a company of Nord’s size even survived the pandemic without going under or being bought out by larger corporation.