Hammond/Rhodes on P4/Grand?

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Hammond/Rhodes on P4/Grand?

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Hi, I am absolutely new here.
I am looking for a new stage piano.
~70% I will use the Grand piano sounds, but also some Hammond and Rhodes.
Are these sounds on the Grand/p4 oder available as downloads?

Thanks for advice :D
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Re: Hammond/Rhodes on P4/Grand?

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Ni Noeps,

what are you playing at the moment? Are you happy with it? Mainly the key action!

A Nord Grand or Piano 4 doesn't have an organ engine. And doesn't have a waterfall keybed. The piano types you can use are to be found in the Nord Piano Library. Including 2 Wurly and 8 Rhodes.

If you want to play an organ sound, you would need to use the sample engine with preconfigured sounds. With little offers from Nord - you could sample your own organ sounds, though.

If you want piano and full organ sounds, you would be driven to the Electros - but their keybed isn't very piano-like. You might test the Electro 6 HP.
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FZiegler wrote: If you want piano and full organ sounds, you would be driven to the Electros - but their keybed isn't very piano-like. You might test the Electro 6 HP.
...or the Stage. After all, 70% of piano playing would justify a Stage 3 88, which is OK-ish for organ too. More so than the Compact being suitable to piano playing at least.
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Re: Hammond/Rhodes on P4/Grand?

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Hi
Now I play a Kurzweil mps110 and I love the action.
Light weighted hammer action.
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Re: Hammond/Rhodes on P4/Grand?

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Could be similar to the Electro 6 HP which is a light weighted "hammer" action, too. HP stands for "hammer action portable", as far as I know.
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By its name, it would seem so, but there are reports* on this forum as to how UNsuitable the action of the HP is for Organ playing -- that is, even *less* suitable than the HA's. I never tried the Nord HP action but I tried a few which give me the gist of being similar to the HP, and I'd agree that they are the least suitable for organ.

For example, check this one by anotherscott: general-nord-forum-f29/please-help-choo ... al#p130539
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Re: Hammond/Rhodes on P4/Grand?

Post by Tasten-Bert »

Hi Norbert

and a very warm welcome to this wonderful forum of nord enthusiasts. As far as your question is concerned I‘d say it all depends on the style of music you play. If I were you I’d see two roads to go:

Either my piano playing is my main focus, and I play challenging tunes which demand an excellent keybed feeling then I would choose the Nord Grand and would spend some more money in an iPad plus the app Galileo Organ (17 €). Rhodes and Wurlitzer sounds are available for the Grand. The organ sound of the app is really great. Only restriction of that combi would be that with these weighted keys you won‘t be able to play a Jon Lord solo in every detail. But if you need organ sounds only for tunes like „Have you ever seen the rain“ or „Here I go again“ or „Wonderful tonight“ it‘ll be alright.

Or: For fast organ playing you may take a second (master-)keyboard with cheap waterfallish keybed into account.

What kind of music do you play?

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Tasten-Bert wrote: Or: For fast organ playing you may take a second (master-)keyboard with cheap waterfallish keybed into account
The problem is, name one! There aren't that many, if any, true waterfall MIDI controllers. I'm not aware of any. This is an evergoing problem with playing organ remotely via MIDI.
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Re: Hammond/Rhodes on P4/Grand?

Post by catosim »

When it comes to keybed, there aren`t any combinations that will suit you well both in piano-action and organ-action.
The compromise is to choose the keybed that is suited for the your main needs. If its 70 percent piano, then go for the NS3 with HA action, og NE6 with HA action.
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Re: Hammond/Rhodes on P4/Grand?

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catosim wrote:og NE6 with HA action.
The NE6 doesn't come in HA fashion -- the closest is HP.
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