Next version of MacOS probably doesn't support Sound Manager

[MartinJ2EX]

I usually upgrade my MacBook right away, but this year I’ll check all my plugins and software...
iPhone and iPad are already running iOS 13, so I can’t use Reminders on my Mac temporarily...


@LewTheKeysGuy
A thread “feature requests for Nord software” would be AWESOME !!!

[maurizio]

Yes it looks like the only DAW that will support Catalina from day one will be Logic Pro X :->.

Steinberg, Native Instruments and Ableton issued advisors to their users to not update to Catalina until further notice.
I think i'll just relax and make music while they take a few month solve their problems :->

Maurizio

[analogika]

Same as every year...

[dhbp-nord]

This one is bigger - Apple has significantly increased security requirements for software developers - old software and equipment that does not conform is simply not going to run in Catalina. This is not just a Nord thing.

https://cdm.link/2019/09/macos-catalina ... t-to-know/

Anyone purchasing new Apple PCs with Catalina is going to have issues, or will need to investigate downgrading from Catalina.

D,

[dhbp-nord]

[analogika]

This one is bigger - Apple has significantly increased security requirements for software developers - old software and equipment that does not conform is simply not going to run in Catalina. This is not just a Nord thing.

https://cdm.link/2019/09/macos-catalina ... t-to-know/

Anyone purchasing new Apple PCs with Catalina is going to have issues, or will need to investigate downgrading from Catalina.

Nah. There have been major issues with stuff all the time. The 64-Bit kernel was a big one, and the SIP in Mojave took its toll.
Not to mention the switch to Intel.

There’s a big one every few years.

[GuiliClayder]

Yes it looks like the only DAW that will support Catalina from day one will be Logic Pro X :->.

Steinberg, Native Instruments and Ableton issued advisors to their users to not update to Catalina until further notice.
I think i'll just relax and make music while they take a few month solve their problems :->

Maurizio

I thought Cubase 10 already supported 64-bit. I downloaded a trial but can't remember whether I had a choice between a 32 and 64 bit installer...
Cubasis 2 on the iPad is 64-bit, though. Every iPad released since 2014 has been 64-bit only.

Still, Apple's not to blame, as they have been issueing warnings about the switch to 64-bit for years, so I find it surprising that most companies aren't ready yet. They should have been preparing for it for a long time, and I'm sure they've had access to beta versions of Catalina for a long time for testing purposes...
If you're a small independent developer, working alone or with a small team, I can understand that it's not always possible or easy to assign the necessary funds and people to develop a new version of whatever software you've developed, but for companies like Nord, Steinberg, Korg, etc., who have plenty of resources, there's no excuse for not being ready before, or at least on the day of Catalina's release.

"Do not update" is the easy way out... That's like putting up a sign saying 'Careful, road in bad condition' instead of repairing said road... That's my take, anyway.

[dhbp-nord]

This is the first time I've seen this many vendors throwing up warnings - not the same. A number of older titles/devices are simply not going to be updated.

D.

[Schorsch]

Still, Apple's not to blame, as they have been issueing warnings about the switch to 64-bit for years, so I find it surprising that most companies aren't ready yet. They should have been preparing for it for a long time, and I'm sure they've had access to beta versions of Catalina for a long time for testing purposes...
If you're a small independent developer, working alone or with a small team, I can understand that it's not always possible or easy to assign the necessary funds and people to develop a new version of whatever software you've developed, but for companies like Nord, Steinberg, Korg, etc., who have plenty of resources, there's no excuse for not being ready before, or at least on the day of Catalina's release.

No one's blaming Apple fror anything regarding the shift to 64bit only from Catalina on, but on the other no one can blame any other company for not being ready with 64bit versions of their software unless Catalina is officially released. There is justification to do so only when Catalina is available and the only option for customers buying new Macs.

Also how do you know that Nord has plenty of resources? According to my knowledge the whole company is less than 40 people. These 40 people develop and maintain 8 (!) different core products plus additional options, including

- manufacturing and shipping of the products
- firmware maintenance/updates for the current product lineup
- development and maintenance of software tools like Sound Manager, Sample Editor, Drivers and others (which is what this thread is about)
- development on the hardware level for future generations of the existing product lines and potentially new products
- creation/recreation of samples
- hardware maintenance and support
- sales, marketing and administration
- plus others I may have forgotten

Do you really think that less than 40 people is "plenty of resources" for a company like Nord (even if they may have outsourced some functions/levels of work which I would guess they did)? Given this situation I fully understand why Nord has to prioritize it's tasks and workloads and not spend time and tight resources on release (nota bene: I don't mean "development"!) of product revisions to support an operating system which has not yet been released.


Just to be clear, I'm not a Nord fanboy nor am I in any way related to or sponsored by Nord, but I worked for a number of tech companies both hardware and software (and still do so), therefore have a bit of insight in what it means for a company to professionally maintain such a product set. I therefore fully understand why Nord acts like they do and I think they do a fantastic job with the limited amount of resources, although I personally would also wish to get a lot of additional features on both the hardware/firmware and the software tools side of the game.

[GuiliClayder]

no one can blame any other company for not being ready with 64bit versions of their software unless Catalina is officially released. There is justification to do so only when Catalina is available and the only option for customers buying new Macs.

Catalina will be released in a couple of weeks. If all those companies are truly ready with 64-bit versions of their software, then why are they issuing warnings not to upgrade ? People will only upgrade when Catalina is officially released, the discussion is not about beta software ; however, the fact that these 'do not update' warnings are there, is a sign that they won't be ready when Catalina officially hits the market.

Also how do you know that Nord has plenty of resources? According to my knowledge the whole company is less than 40 people. These 40 people develop and maintain 8 (!) different core products plus additional options

Is that my problem as a customer ? The way I see it, premium prices equal premium support. Full stop.