NS3 dual Kb is totally crippled by OSv1.24

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Re: NS3 dual Kb is totally crippled by OSv1.24

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ndaustin wrote:I bought the NS3 primarily because the synth on the Stage 2 was feeble, and because the NS3 has Seamless prog change. It was a bad move to upgrade... One doesn't expect functionality to be reduced.

Unfortunately, it's very common that a new model can't do everything the earlier model did. There are tons of examples, not just from Nord. Yamaha, Korg, Kurzweil... Computers and smartphones, too.
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baekgaard wrote:@ndaustin: sorry to hear of your problems. As I wrote in the other thread, DualKB in panel mode works here - also on channel 15. Is it so that it is not working for you at all or is there some specific part of the NS2 functionality that isn't there?
My main gripe is that Panel B doesn't have all the functionality that it had with the NS2 EX. But I haven't managed to get the controller keyboard to work properly with the latest OS 1.52. Half the notes don't play using the controller keyboard, and those that do have the sustain on. I have to press 'shift and panic' to stop them. As I said previously, it may be my fault (it invariably is). We really could do with a decent tutorials for these kind of setups.
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Is it possible to install the Stage 3 OS to the one before 1.24? If so, does anyone have a link?
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baekgaard wrote:@ndaustin: sorry to hear of your problems. As I wrote in the other thread, DualKB in panel mode works here - also on channel 15. Is it so that it is not working for you at all or is there some specific part of the NS2 functionality that isn't there?
Well I just discovered that when pressing Shift + KB zones + DualKB and turning the program dial anti-clockwise there is also a Panel setting (in addition to the organ, piano and synth setting). ...Maybe that's what you were referring to. So far I have partial success in that I have managed to assign the controller keyboard to play my Novation Peak via the Nord's Extern section without the sustain pedal being continually active. However, split points do not correspond to the split assignemnts set on the Nord. If I have the upper two assignments active then the split point is around F0 on the Keylab, and if the split point is assigned to the lower two assignments, the split point is around C6. (This despite the fact that the central split point is set to E3/F3). To complicate matters, I moved the Octave up/down button and the split points disappeared (though still showing a split point LED on the Nord). Also, when activating the piano on the Nord, the piano sounds sporadically with the sustain always on, meaning only the occasional note that I play actually makes a sound (which is sustained).

I did a re-install of OS 1.52 with no improvement. I'll keep at it and report if I have any any success.

Further update... Nord split point is still set to near the middle of the Nord. On the controller keyboard the Novation Peak sounds are normal about the central split point, but the black keys don't make any sound below the split point. The white keys do sound though the white F key actually plays F#. Weird! Somehow I don't think this is my fault.
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ndaustin wrote:
baekgaard wrote:@ndaustin: sorry to hear of your problems. As I wrote in the other thread, DualKB in panel mode works here - also on channel 15. Is it so that it is not working for you at all or is there some specific part of the NS2 functionality that isn't there?
Well I just discovered that when pressing Shift + KB zones + DualKB and turning the program dial anti-clockwise there is also a Panel setting (in addition to the organ, piano and synth setting). ...Maybe that's what you were referring to. So far I have partial success in that I have managed to assign the controller keyboard to play my Novation Peak via the Nord's Extern section without the sustain pedal being continually active. However, split points do not correspond to the split assignemnts set on the Nord. If I have the upper two assignments active then the split point is around F0 on the Keylab, and if the split point is assigned to the lower two assignments, the split point is around C6. (This despite the fact that the central split point is set to E3/F3). To complicate matters, I moved the Octave up/down button and the split points disappeared (though still showing a split point LED on the Nord). Also, when activating the piano on the Nord, the piano sounds sporadically with the sustain always on, meaning only the occasional note that I play actually makes a sound (which is sustained).

I did a re-install of OS 1.52 with no improvement. I'll keep at it and report if I have any any success.

Further update... Nord split point is still set to near the middle of the Nord. On the controller keyboard the Novation Peak sounds are normal about the central split point, but the black keys don't make any sound below the split point. The white keys do sound though the white F key actually plays F#. Weird! Somehow I don't think this is my fault.


OS 1.52 big problem in dual KB, playing with the midi master all the notes continue to sound as if I used the sustain pedal, it is necessary the intervention of the panic button to stop the sound! Now I'm really angry !!!!!!!! have solved the problem of the swell pedal that now works in dual KB, but have created a bigger problem !!!!!!! how is it that Clavia is not able to solve these problems?
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Satomy wrote:
ndaustin wrote:
baekgaard wrote:@ndaustin: sorry to hear of your problems. As I wrote in the other thread, DualKB in panel mode works here - also on channel 15. Is it so that it is not working for you at all or is there some specific part of the NS2 functionality that isn't there?
Well I just discovered that when pressing Shift + KB zones + DualKB and turning the program dial anti-clockwise there is also a Panel setting (in addition to the organ, piano and synth setting). ...Maybe that's what you were referring to. So far I have partial success in that I have managed to assign the controller keyboard to play my Novation Peak via the Nord's Extern section without the sustain pedal being continually active. However, split points do not correspond to the split assignemnts set on the Nord. If I have the upper two assignments active then the split point is around F0 on the Keylab, and if the split point is assigned to the lower two assignments, the split point is around C6. (This despite the fact that the central split point is set to E3/F3). To complicate matters, I moved the Octave up/down button and the split points disappeared (though still showing a split point LED on the Nord). Also, when activating the piano on the Nord, the piano sounds sporadically with the sustain always on, meaning only the occasional note that I play actually makes a sound (which is sustained).

I did a re-install of OS 1.52 with no improvement. I'll keep at it and report if I have any any success.

Further update... Nord split point is still set to near the middle of the Nord. On the controller keyboard the Novation Peak sounds are normal about the central split point, but the black keys don't make any sound below the split point. The white keys do sound though the white F key actually plays F#. Weird! Somehow I don't think this is my fault.


OS 1.52 big problem in dual KB, playing with the midi master all the notes continue to sound as if I used the sustain pedal, it is necessary the intervention of the panic button to stop the sound! Now I'm really angry !!!!!!!! have solved the problem of the swell pedal that now works in dual KB, but have created a bigger problem !!!!!!! how is it that Clavia is not able to solve these problems?
Has anyone confirmed this?!
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Satomy wrote:playing with the midi master all the notes continue to sound as if I used the sustain pedal, it is necessary the intervention of the panic button to stop the sound! Now I'm really angry !!!!!!!! have solved the problem of the swell pedal that now works in dual KB, but have created a bigger problem !!!!!!! how is it that Clavia is not able to solve these problems?
Is any sustain pedal plugged in? The symptom of having notes sustain when the pedal is *not* pressed is typical of having the wrong kind ("polarity") of pedal connected (or wrongly selected).
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anotherscott wrote:
Satomy wrote:playing with the midi master all the notes continue to sound as if I used the sustain pedal, it is necessary the intervention of the panic button to stop the sound! Now I'm really angry !!!!!!!! have solved the problem of the swell pedal that now works in dual KB, but have created a bigger problem !!!!!!! how is it that Clavia is not able to solve these problems?
Is any sustain pedal plugged in? The symptom of having notes sustain when the pedal is *not* pressed is typical of having the wrong kind ("polarity") of pedal connected (or wrongly selected).
I need to test myself this version...
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anotherscott wrote:
Satomy wrote:playing with the midi master all the notes continue to sound as if I used the sustain pedal, it is necessary the intervention of the panic button to stop the sound! Now I'm really angry !!!!!!!! have solved the problem of the swell pedal that now works in dual KB, but have created a bigger problem !!!!!!! how is it that Clavia is not able to solve these problems?
Is any sustain pedal plugged in? The symptom of having notes sustain when the pedal is *not* pressed is typical of having the wrong kind ("polarity") of pedal connected (or wrongly selected).
I did all the possible tests, even without sustain pedal I have the problem! it's also a bug! have you installed OS 1.52 on your NS3? did you have the same problem?
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Jo Osantos1 wrote:
anotherscott wrote:
Satomy wrote:playing with the midi master all the notes continue to sound as if I used the sustain pedal, it is necessary the intervention of the panic button to stop the sound! Now I'm really angry !!!!!!!! have solved the problem of the swell pedal that now works in dual KB, but have created a bigger problem !!!!!!! how is it that Clavia is not able to solve these problems?
Is any sustain pedal plugged in? The symptom of having notes sustain when the pedal is *not* pressed is typical of having the wrong kind ("polarity") of pedal connected (or wrongly selected).
I need to test myself this version...
I unplugged my sustain pedal from the controller keyboard and the problem persists. Plus my attached Novation Peak (routed through Nord Extern) sustains indefinitely when the sustain pedal is unplugged though is damped as normal when plugged in. Polarity makes no difference. OS 1.52. Some notes from the external synth (Novation Peak) played by the controller keyboard via the NS3 are missing or incorrect too.
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