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Very interesting discovery. When I heard about the loop finder tool I had opened up one of the project files and checked it out, and noticed there appeared to be parameters which were not in NSE including the velocity. It's great to see someone figured out a way to make this work!
I have a feeling this is not the same tool used to create .npno files by Clavia because those have even more parameters, for example samples that play on pedal down, release samples, etc which don't seem to be mentioned in a nsmproj file.
This could be super awesome on a Stage 4 or Wave 2 for sure.

Good morning, has anyone tried stage 4?

I'm not sure if I have understood this right just yet...but using this technique can you limit the max velocity when a piano is played?

Reason I ask is that at max velocity (ie striking the key hard) pretty well all the grand pianos sound unrealistically percussive (to me). I'd like to limit the velocity to say 126 (from the normal max 127) as this would hopefully avoid the effect when I get carried away!

My old Yamaha P200 allowed this kind of thing easily....

Thanks

The only way you can do what you're asking is with an external device, like the MIDI Solutions Velocity Converter or Event Processor.

tsss27 wrote:The only way you can do what you're asking is with an external device, like the MIDI Solutions Velocity Converter or Event Processor.

Sadly as I kind of suspected. Thanks for the confirmation!

WP63WJ wrote:I'm not sure if I have understood this right just yet...but using this technique can you limit the max velocity when a piano is played?

Sorry my friend; this hack only applies to custom user sample files (.nsmp3 and presumably .nsmp4 [untested]), not Nord Piano (.npno) files or factory samples.

As tsss27 says: to accomplish your idea, you would shunt your MIDI data through some kind of MIDI processor and then back to your Nord.

I just saw this post and wanted to try this out. I just got a Stage 4 Compact and I still have my Stage 3 Compact, so I've been trying this hack on both. I''ve had success on the Stage 3 but not yet on the Stage 4. On the NS4 I tried creating the the file as per these instructions and that doesn't seem to be working. I also tried directly importing the nsmp3 file into Sound Manager, converting to nsmp4 format and saving to the NS4 and that also isn't working for me.

I have tried using all three amp velocity settings in the synth section and have tried rendering the file with and without 'dynamics' checked off the Sample Editor.

If anyone is experimenting with this hack on the Stage 4 I'd be interested in hearing about it. I'm no expert in deciphering all that's in the text file outside of the basic 'find and replace' the min and max velocity values. I suspect there may be more to it as the NS4 is very different from the NS3. I have also opened the text file after transferring to the NS4 and it does still show the Min and Max velocity values correctly as I entered (hacked) them, but I can't get the sample velocity to play that way, only full 0-127 or no velocity.

Oh, very interesting (and a little unfortunate). I wonder how the NS4 architecture is different. I don't have regular access to an NS4 so I don't have any useful suggestions.

deonord wrote:I just saw this post and wanted to try this out. I just got a Stage 4 Compact and I still have my Stage 3 Compact, so I've been trying this hack on both. I''ve had success on the Stage 3 but not yet on the Stage 4. On the NS4 I tried creating the the file as per these instructions and that doesn't seem to be working. I also tried directly importing the nsmp3 file into Sound Manager, converting to nsmp4 format and saving to the NS4 and that also isn't working for me.

I have tried using all three amp velocity settings in the synth section and have tried rendering the file with and without 'dynamics' checked off the Sample Editor.

If anyone is experimenting with this hack on the Stage 4 I'd be interested in hearing about it. I'm no expert in deciphering all that's in the text file outside of the basic 'find and replace' the min and max velocity values. I suspect there may be more to it as the NS4 is very different from the NS3. I have also opened the text file after transferring to the NS4 and it does still show the Min and Max velocity values correctly as I entered (hacked) them, but I can't get the sample velocity to play that way, only full 0-127 or no velocity.

Just to be clear, this hack works by creating two Different samples and uses two different Synth sections (on the stage 4 it could actually be extended to 3 velocity layers with 3 samples).