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What kind of keybed is in NS2 SW73

Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 05:46
by whitenoise
Hi Guys,

NS compact and NE used to have the same keybed Fatar TP80. But NS2 SW73 has definitely some other semi-weighted keybed. Does anybody know what keybed is used in NS2 SW73?

Re: What kind of keybed is in NS2 SW73

Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 06:23
by iaorana
whitenoise wrote:NS compact and NE used to have the same keybed Fatar TP80. But NS2 SW73 has definitely some other semi-weighted keybed. Does anybody know what keybed is used in NS2 SW73?
Looks like a TP/8O too (the suffix is letter "O" for Organ, not zero!), but it may have been customized for Clavia - witness the trigger point selection feature (?)

Anyway, I find the feeling of my NS2 SW73 keybed fantastic in its domain: better than an Hammond keybed even for playing organ, and, with some training, quite usable to play piano in most circumstances other than a classical music concert, IMHO :-)

Re: What kind of keybed is in NS2 SW73

Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 09:20
by Johannes
I think the NE and NS Compact use different keybeds, no? (At least they feel very different IMHO and the NS has AT, but I coulndt find which keybed the NEs are using)
Here is already a thread on this topic: http://www.norduserforum.com/nord-elect ... html#p2793

I thought that while the NS2 76/88 have a new keybed, the NS2 Compact/73 key version was the same than the Classic/EX ?? But maybe I'm wrong.

Re: What kind of keybed is in NS2 SW73

Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 09:52
by whitenoise
I owned both NS compact classic, NE3 73 and NS2 SW73. NS compact and NE3 have identical keybed (waterfall) at least it feels like to me. NE3 has no aftertouch. But it doesn't mean that NE3 has different keybed. The aftertouch capability could be just disabled/not used in NE3.
NS2 SW73 has semi-weighted waterfall keybed. It feels different from NS compact and NE3. I like it better then NS compact and NE3 73. I just wonder what type of keybed is used in NS2 SW73.

Re: What kind of keybed is in NS2 SW73

Posted: 13 Jul 2011, 23:55
by Cbas
Hmm. I have tried/owned both NE2, NS compact and now NS2 SW73. And in my experience, I would say they all use the same keybed. The two Stages have aftertouch which makes it different, and I suspect that the NS2 SW73 has different dynamic stettings(velocity curves) than the previous model.
It's strange that we all have different opinions on this :-/

Re: What kind of keybed is in NS2 SW73

Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 00:49
by whitenoise
indeed :)

Re: What kind of keybed is in NS2 SW73

Posted: 14 Jul 2011, 08:05
by iaorana
Cbas wrote:It's strange that we all have different opinions on this :-/
While reading us, Clavia's designers are probably laughing up their sleeves ;-) After all, there's obviously a truth, so our opinions are worth nothing, hmm? Please, Mr Nord... LOL

Re: What kind of keybed is in NS2 SW73

Posted: 15 Jul 2011, 00:28
by Cbas
Haha. Yeah the Nord folks might get a few laughs reading this forum sometimes :) It's awesome that they are involved though, and help answer people's answers every now and then.

Re: What kind of keybed is in NS2 SW73

Posted: 30 Jul 2011, 05:51
by anotherscott
iaorana wrote: it may have been customized for Clavia - witness the trigger point selection feature (?)
I don't know whether Fatar customizes anything for the NS2, or if Nord does, but the trigger point feature does not require any keybed customization, it's in the software. The keys have two sensors, one toward the top or the travel and one toward the bottom. The time it takes to cross from one to the other is interpreted as velocity. Since organ doesn't need to respond to velocity, they could program it so it is full-on when the key crosses the first sensor point, without having to wait until the key hits the second sensor point as it needs to for piano or any other sound where the velocity parameter is important.

Re: What kind of keybed is in NS2 SW73

Posted: 30 Jul 2011, 07:37
by iaorana
anotherscott wrote:I don't know whether Fatar customizes anything for the NS2, or if Nord does, but the trigger point feature does not require any keybed customization, it's in the software. The keys have two sensors, one toward the top or the travel and one toward the bottom. The time it takes to cross from one to the other is interpreted as velocity. Since organ doesn't need to respond to velocity, they could program it so it is full-on when the key crosses the first sensor point, without having to wait until the key hits the second sensor point as it needs to for piano or any other sound where the velocity parameter is important.
Columbus's egg :thumbup: