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Hi!

I'm considering buying the C2D. However, it was first released 3 years ago, and C-line has been previously updated every 3-4 years. Are there any rumours of a follow-up model to the C2D? I've been thinking of what Clavia could do next, but the C2D seems fairly complete from a feature perspective, maybe except for motorized drawbars. The only thing I can see happening at this point is Clavia upgrading the DSP power, and further improving the overall authenticity/resolution of the tonewheel and effects models. This would probably make the C2D's shelf life longer than the previous models...
Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Hi Mike,

and welcome to the forum!

Mike37 wrote:Are there any rumours of a follow-up model to the C2D?

haven't heard any, but we could start some....or perhaps wait for April 1.

Bless,

Pablo

Thanks Pablo, I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm gonna order a C2D the upcoming week, can't wait to get my hands on it!

I used to have this problem with computers - always waiting for the next new chip or memory doubling, but now I just buy one and use it. I waited a while to get my C2D - I'd been saving since the C2 came out and by the time I'd got the money together the C2 was pretty well unavailable. So in effect I just bought it and got on with it. If a C3 or whatever comes out, it may be fantastic, but my C2D will still work as well as it did. I would then consider an upgrade on the merits of the improvements and what I might get selling the C2D.

You can't play something you haven't bought ... .

tacitus wrote:...You can't play something you haven't bought ... .

Yep, well said! Holding out for a better, shinier version is an endless wait in the end! Applies also to phones, cars, wives...

I have a C2D which, because of it's portability, I use to gig with. I love it but I have a KeyB Duo Mark111 which I love more. Lack of portability and uncertain repair services (won't risk road use) have confined it to home use (actually, I bought it for home use instead of springing for a "B3"). Ergonomically (including controls), it's the closest thing I've found to a B3. Nord COULD improve the C2D in terms of authenticity. JMO.

chas

cgiles wrote:I have a C2D which, because of it's portability, I use to gig with. I love it but I have a KeyB Duo Mark111 which I love more. Lack of portability and uncertain repair services (won't risk road use) have confined it to home use (actually, I bought it for home use instead of springing for a "B3"). Ergonomically (including controls), it's the closest thing I've found to a B3. Nord COULD improve the C2D in terms of authenticity. JMO.

Interesting comments. Could you describe how the tonewhell + leslie emulation is better/differ on the KeyB Duo MarkIII?

Well for starters, I use the C2D with a Leslie 3300 and the KeyB with a pair of EV SXA250's. To be honest, I've never A/'B'd them built-in sim to built-in sim, with identical PA systems. It's more of a "feel" thing. The percussion on the Nord is slightly more pronounced and the tone is brighter. The chorus on the KeyB sounds more authentic and the overall tone fuller. The KeyB is set up almost identical to a B3 (with a few very useful add-ons) and the size of the console is also similar to the B3, giving one a strong sense of playing the real thing (I owned and played a CV, C2, C3 or B3 with real Leslies for many years).

Of course, in terms of overall sound, with all else being equal (built-in sim, Burn, Vent, or Leslie), all (Nord, KeyB, Mojo, XK3c, Numa) would be more than acceptable (both live and on recording) and would be hard to distinguish between in a blind listening test. Like everything else in music, it's all subjective anyway and usually comes down to what meets your personal needs.

chas

cgiles wrote:Like everything else in music, it's all subjective anyway and usually comes down to what meets your personal needs.

+1!

pablo

cgiles wrote:Well for starters, I use the C2D with a Leslie 3300 and the KeyB with a pair of EV SXA250's. To be honest, I've never A/'B'd them built-in sim to built-in sim, with identical PA systems. It's more of a "feel" thing. The percussion on the Nord is slightly more pronounced and the tone is brighter. The chorus on the KeyB sounds more authentic and the overall tone fuller. The KeyB is set up almost identical to a B3 (with a few very useful add-ons) and the size of the console is also similar to the B3, giving one a strong sense of playing the real thing (I owned and played a CV, C2, C3 or B3 with real Leslies for many years).

Thanks! I used to have a Nord C1 some years ago, and I did feel the tone of the organ lacked the nuances and fullness of a real hammond. Obviously the C2D is a noticable improvement, and I'm looking forward to get my hands on it (it's ordered).