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Sub Mix advice

Posted: 21 Dec 2013, 20:13
by soratach
Hi all,

I'm looking to buy a sub mix for my home/live use. At the moment i have the stage2 and the prophet12. I'm also looking to expand the collection as i go.

Which submix or a mix would be suitable for a home use as well as capable for on stage use as well?

The budget isnt a big concern, yet!! As long as its worth the money.

Thank you guys!

Tat P.

merry x'mas to u all!!

Re: Sub Mix advice

Posted: 22 Dec 2013, 01:28
by pablomastodon
ashly is excellent choice,

bless,

pablo

Re: Sub Mix advice

Posted: 22 Dec 2013, 03:28
by RedLeo
If you're on a tight budget, you could consider the Behringer RX 1602. I know Behringer gets a bad rap for some shoddy gear, but this is an excellent submixer for the money. I use one live and it's served me very well. It's 16 channels (configured as 8 stereo channels) into 2.

Re: Sub Mix advice

Posted: 22 Dec 2013, 12:37
by Mr_-G-
I recently got a 2nd hand, immaculate, Peavey PV14. Very happy with, has a number of effects (delays, reverbs, etc) which are OK-ish. It could be used to mix small gigs too. There is also a USB model, which might be convenient to have.

Re: Sub Mix advice

Posted: 22 Dec 2013, 18:57
by pablomastodon
I'll agree with RedLeo on the Behringer -- it does the job economically. I used one heavily for a bit less than two years before it started having problems. I took it to my trusted repair tech and he laughed at me, pointing to the Behringer's price tag with one hand and his hourly labor rate with the other. He was right, of course, but the thought of throwing it in the garbage and buying another one didn't sit well in my gut.

The real kicker for me was: while I waited to figure out my new 1U solution I started setting up close enough to the band mixer so that I could simply run direct into the board, then a Mackie. The improvement in sound quality was seriously eye-opening. Suddenly I was hearing nuance which I had not previously known existed.

We all start out broke and there's no shame in going with the cheapo mixer, but when you're able to step up to something better, you'll be happy you did.

Currently using Presonus 1818VSL for line mix. This means carrying a computer to the gig, which is its disadvantages, but the massive amount of processing ability is seriously sweet. Been about two months and pretty happy with it so far...I may eventually get another so that I can get back to stereo, but most house gigs mono anyway...

Pablo

Re: Sub Mix advice

Posted: 07 Jan 2014, 03:45
by mtier0067
I have been using an allen and heath zed10 mixer for about 4 years now. no problems whatsoever... xlr and 1/4" mains out so you can send a stereo mix to the front of house and to a set of stereo monitors (plus a seperate mono mix to the FOH if you want that...). fx send and return with seperate gains for each channel, aux sends for each channel, xlr inputs x4, 2 stereo channels and a playback channel, usb recording capabilities. the zed10fx has some great fx but i do all of those onboard my nord... Fits inside my gig bag with pedals and cords perfectly... I have used it for a few set ups... hammond c2 with leslie (two mix on top, one on bottom), a stereo pair for my synth, a stereo pair for my weighted 88, a house mix, my vocals, and a 1/4" from my computer. Also works just fine for a 2 board stereo rig with a mix from foh for in ears or stage monitors...

here's a link to the mixer
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ZED10/
here's a link to the bag
http://store.gigskinz.com/dyn_prod.php?p=BGMM&k=116165

Re: Sub Mix advice

Posted: 07 Jan 2014, 13:31
by Six-string-man
Mr_-G- wrote:I recently got a 2nd hand, immaculate, Peavey PV14. Very happy with, has a number of effects (delays, reverbs, etc) which are OK-ish. It could be used to mix small gigs too. There is also a USB model, which might be convenient to have.

I also picked up a used PV 14. I know for a fact that it had done 300+ gigs, but the previous owner treated his gear like they were his babies, and it is doing great device in my rig.

I paid £90 for it, and couldn't be happier.


SSM

Re: Sub Mix advice

Posted: 07 Jan 2014, 13:36
by Six-string-man
Device? Damn this word predictor thing! I meant service, sorry.

SSM

Re: Sub Mix advice

Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 13:06
by soratach
TBH I'm very tempted to get the Mackie Big Knob for home use. 3 sets of stereo inputs do cover a lot of my needs, 2 keyboards and a DAW. The only thing that still holds me back is that the device is an active and not a passive.

Re: Sub Mix advice

Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 01:23
by analogika
pablomastodon wrote:The real kicker for me was: while I waited to figure out my new 1U solution I started setting up close enough to the band mixer so that I could simply run direct into the board, then a Mackie. The improvement in sound quality was seriously eye-opening. Suddenly I was hearing nuance which I had not previously known existed.
And that's saying something: Mackie doesn't make mixers. They're effects processors and summing compressors. I happen to like that and keep a little Mackie around the studio to run drums and things through when I want the Mackie's compression and filter banks, er, "EQ".

The things are built like tanks, though, and if you like the sound they put out, they put out great sound.