For once, the manual is surely not enough

[Tony Fuzz]

Hello boys,

I'm currently trying to control my NS4 via midi CC in order to control any parameter from external commands. From the manual appendix, do you know if there are any ressources online with more information. Per example, for the reverb type change, how do i know which value make cathedral reverb ? I've tried manually and you have to divide 127 by 12(6 different reverb 2 variations ) and take a value between 10x and 10(x+1). This is a pain.

[Reverb]
Reverb Enable : NRPN 2:104
Reverb Bright : NRPN 2:106
Reverb Amount : CC#113
Reverb Type/Variation : NRPN 2:105
Reverb Global : CC#30

[FZiegler]

Indeed, the MIDI feature list for Nord products doesn't comply with what I expect from a MIDI Implementation Chart.

The way to get what you need to know should nevertheless not be very complicated: Just install a MIDI viewer on your computer and connect it to the Nord. Whatever knob you turn or button you press should result in the relevant MIDI commands. Just note them down if you need to know details.

[Tasten-Bert]

Hi Tony,

maybe the app MIDI MAPPER can be of some help for you, look here:
https://schroederonline.de/midimapper

I use it on my iPad, works great.

Good luck and cheers from Germany

[Tony Fuzz]

The way to get what you need to know should nevertheless not be very complicated: Just install a MIDI viewer on your computer and connect it to the Nord. Whatever knob you turn or button you press should result in the relevant MIDI commands. Just note them down if you need to know details.

How to get the Nord stage 4 to send MIDI CC via MIDI output to the computer ?
From the MIDI Viewer i can see note being played but i don't see anything when turning a knob. (i've tried both MIDI output USB MIDI and USB DIN).
Edit : i found the solution : activate CC send & receive via the MIDI options in the settings, it works now, i'll make an update

maybe the app MIDI MAPPER can be of some help for you, look here:
https://schroederonline.de/midimapper

Thanks for the suggestion but i found the solution.

[Tony Fuzz]

Ok so after 6 hours of work with Midi Viewer, a free app for windows/mac, i've managed to list the value effects of almost each CC parameters for Nord stage 4 Enjoy

Bank Select MSB CC# 0 (did not understood how to use it)
Bank Select LSB CC# 32 (did not understood how to use it)
Volume Global CC# 7
0 : -inf Db
127 : 0 dB
Sustain pedal CC# 64
0 : off
127 : on
Sostenuto pedal CC# 66
0 : off
127 : on
Soft pedal CC# 67
0 : off
127 : on
Ctrl pedal expression CC# 11
0 : off
127 : on
Layer Scene CC# 8 :
0 : off
127 : on
Section Fx Focus CC# 31
0 : Organ
64 : Pianos
127 : Synths
Section edit CC# 118
0 : off
127 : on
Organ A Level CC# 13
0 : -inf Db
127 : 0 dB
Organ B Level CC# 14
0 : -inf Db
127 : 0 dB
Organ Section enable Scene i CC# 9
0 : off
127 : on
Organ Section enable Scene ii CC# 2
0 : off
127 : on
Organ Layers enable Scene i CC# 80
43 : layer I
85 : layer II
127 : layer I + II
Organ Layers enable Scene ii CC# 81
43 : layer I
85 : layer II
127 : layer I + II
Organ Layers Focus Scene i CC# 82
0 : layer I
127 : layer II
Organ Layers Focus Scene ii CC# 83
0 : layer I
127 : layer II
Organ Octave Shift CC# 12
53 :-1
64 :0
75 :+1
Organ drawbar CC# 16 to 24
0 : drawbar down
127 : drawbar up
Piano A Level CC# 34
0 : -inf Db
127 : 0 dB
Piano B Level CC# 63
0 : -inf Db
127 : 0 dB
Piano Section Enable Scene I CC# 33
0 : off
127 : on
Piano Section Enable Scene II CC# 3
0 : off
127 : on
Piano Layers Enable Scene I CC# 72
43 : layer I
85 : layer II
127 : layer I + II
Piano Layers Enable Scene II CC# 88
43 : layer I
85 : layer II
127 : layer I + II
Piano Layers Focus Scene I CC# 109
0 : layer I
127 : layer II
Piano Layers Focus Scene II CC# 112
0 : layer I
127 : layer II
Piano Octave Shift CC# 35
53 :-1
64 :0
75 :+1
Synth A Level CC# 43
0 : -inf Db
127 : 0 dB
Synth B Level CC# 37
0 : -inf Db
127 : 0 dB
Synth C Level CC# 39
0 : -inf Db
127 : 0 dB
Synth A pan CC# 40
0 : 100% left
64 : default
127 : 100% right
Synth B pan CC# 41
0 : 100% left
64 : default
127 : 100% right
Synth C pan CC# 36
0 : 100% left
64 : 50% left / 50% right
127 : 100% right
Synth Section enable Scene i CC# 42
0 : off
127 : on
Synth Section enable Scene ii CC# 5
0 : off
127 : on
Synth Layers enable Scene i CC# 61
19 : layer I
37 : layer II
55 : layer I + II
73 : layer III
91 : layer I + III
109 : layer II + III
127 : layer I + II + III
Synth Layers enable Scene ii CC# 75
19 : layer I
37 : layer II
55 : layer I + II
73 : layer III
91 : layer I + III
109 : layer II + III
127 : layer I + II + III
Synth Layers Focus Scene i CC# 115
0 : layer I
64 : layer II
127 : layer III
Synth Layers Focus Scene ii CC# 119
0 : layer I
64 : layer II
127 : layer III
Synth Octave Shift CC# 44
43 : -2
53 : -1
64 : 0
75 : +1
85 : +2
Synth Glide Rate CC# 48
0 : 0
127 : 10
Synth Vibrato Rate CC# 45
0 : 2 Hz
127 : 8 Hz
Synth Vibrato Amount CC# 46
0 : 0
127 : 10
Synth Vibrato pedal CC# 15
0 : off
127 : on
Synth Osc envelope Attack CC# 52
0 : 0.5 ms
127 : 45 sec
Synth Osc envelope decay CC# 53
0 : 3 ms
127 : Inf
Synth Osc Ctrl CC# 56
0 : 0
127 : 10
Synth Pitch Course CC# 55
0 : -24 st
64 : 0 st
127 : +24 st
Synth Pitch Fine CC# 47
0 : -50 ct
64 : 0 ct
127 : +50 ct
Synth Osc envelope Release CC# 57
0 : 3 ms
127 : 45 sec
Synth Filter Freq CC# 59
0 : 14 Hz
127 : 32 kHz
Synth Filter Resonance CC# 60
0 : 0
127 : 10
Synth Filter Group CC# 25
0 : off
127 : on
Synth Filter Envelope Attack CC# 49
0 : 0.5 ms
127 : 45 sec
Synth Filter Envelope Decay CC# 50
0 : 3 ms
127 : Inf
Synth Filter Envelope Release CC# 51
0 : 3 ms
127 : 45 sec
Synth Filter Envelope Amount CC# 73
0 : 0
127 : 10
Synth Amp Envelope Attack CC# 68
0 : 0.5 ms
127 : 45 sec
Synth Amp Envelope Decay CC# 69
0 : 3 ms
127 : Inf
Synth Amp Envelope Release CC# 71
0 : 3 ms
127 : 45 sec
Synth Arp/Gate Rate CC# 74
0 : 16 bpm (1/2 if MST CLK)
127 : Fast 5 (1/32 if MST CLK)
Synth Arp/Gate Range CC# 76
0 : 0
127 : 10
Synth Arp/Gate Run CC# 77
0 : off
127 : on
Synth LFO Rate CC# 79
0 : 0.03 Hz (4/1 if MST CLK)
127 : 523 Hz (1/64 if MST CLK)
Synth LFO Amount CC# 54
0 : 0
127 : 10
Mod 1 Amount CC# 85
0 : 0
127 : 10
Mod 1 Rate CC# 86
0 : 0
127 : 10
Mod 1 Pump Pedal CC# 87
0 : off
127 : on
Mod 2 Amount CC# 89
0 : 0
127 : 10
Mod 2 Rate CC# 90
0 : 0
127 : 10
Delay Dry Wet CC# 93
0 : 0
127 : 10
Delay Tempo CC# 94
0 : 1.5 sec (1/2 if MST CLK)
127 : 20 ms (1/64 if MST CLK)
Delay Feedback CC# 95
0 : 0
127 : 10
Delay Global CC# 29
0 : off
127 : on
Amp/EQ Drive CC# 106
0 : 0
127 : 10
Amp/EQ Bass CC# 102
0 : -15 dB
127 : +15 dB
Amp/EQ Mid CC# 103
0 : -15 dB
127 : +15 dB
Amp/EQ Treble - 104
0 : -15 dB
127 : +15 dB
Amp/EQ Mid Frequency - 107
0 : 200 Hz
127 : 8 kHz
Rotary Speed - 108
43 : Slow
127 : Fast
Rotary Drive - 110
0 : 0
127 : 10
Reverb Amount - 113
0 : 0
127 : 10
Reverb Global - 30
0 : off
127 : on
Compressor Amount - 117
0 : 0
127 : 10
Compressor Global - 28
0 : off
127 : on

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Organ Model - 2:16
0 : B3
26 : Vox
51 : Farf
77 : Pipe
102 : Pipe2
127 : B3 Bass
Organ Percussion Enable - 2:18
0 : off
127 : on
Organ Vibrato Type - 2:19
0 : V1
26 : C1
51 : V2
77 : C2
102 : V3
127 : C3
Organ Vibrato Enable - 2:20
0 : off
127 : on
Organ Percussion Harmonic - 2:21
0 : second
127 : Third
Organ Percussion Speed - 2:22
0 : slow
127 : fast
Organ Percussion Level - 2:23
0 : hard
127 : soft
Piano Type - 2:32
0 : Grand
26 : Upright
51 : Electric
77 : Clav
102 : Digital
127 : Misc
Piano ModelVariation 2:33 (need to be used after Piano Type 2:32) Will change if different order / samples
Grand :
0 : White Grand
7 : Royal Grand 3D
14 : Studio Grand 2
21 : Velvet Grand
28 : Soft Grand
34 : ElectricGrand 1
41 : ElectricGrand 2
47 : EGrand3
Upright :
0 : Amber Upright
7 : Felt Upright
14 : Mellow Upright
Electric :
0 : EP1 Deep Timbre
7 : EP2 Ideal Timbre
14 : EP3 Shallow Close
21 : EP4 Mk5 80s
28 : EP5 BrightTines
34 : EP6 Sparkletop
41 : EP7 Amped Tines
47 : EP8 Nefertiti
54 : EP9 Stockholm
61 : Wurlitzer 1
67 : Wurlitzer 2
Digital :
0 : Ballad EP1
7 : Ballad EP2
14 : Hybrid EP
21 : Silver EP
28 : DX7 FullTines
34 : DX RubbaTines
Mist :
0 : Marimba
7 : Vibraphone
Piano ModelVariation 2:34 (need to be used after Piano Type 2:32) Will change if different order / samples
Clav
0 : Clavinet D6 CA
43 : Clavinet D6 CB
85 : Clavinet D6 DA
127 : Clavinet D6 DB
0 : French Harpsi 1A (strange do not use)
Piano Unison - 2:40
0 : off
43 : 1
85 : 2
127 : 3
Piano Timbre - 2:41
19 : Soft (all)
37 : Mid (all)
55 : Bright (all) / Soft + Mid (clav only)
73 : Dyno 1 (electric only) / Bright (clav only)
91 : Dyno 2 (electric only) / Soft + Bright (clav only)
109 : Mid + Bright (clav only)
127 : Soft + Mid + Bright (clav only)
Piano Dyn Comp - 2:42
0 : off
43 : 1
85 : 2
127 : 3
Piano KB Touch - 2:43
0 : Heavy
64 : Medium
127 : Light
Piano Acoustics - 2:44
0 : off
43 : String Resonance (Grand, Upright, Digital only)
85 : Soft Release (All)
127 : String Resonance & Soft Release (Grand, Upright, Digital only)
Synth Voice Mode - 3:16
0 : Poly
64 : Mono
127 : Legato
Synth Voice Priority - 3:17
0 : off
64 : Lowest note
127 : Highest note
Synth Vibrato Mode - 3:19
0 : off
26 : On
51 : Delay
77 : Wheel
102 : Aftertouch
127 : Pedal
Synth Vibrato Dly Time - 3:20
0 : 0.1 sec
127 : 3 sec
Synth Osc Envelope To Pitch - 3:33
0 : off
127 : on
Synth Osc Envelope Velocity - 3:32
0 : off
127 : on
Synth Filter Drive - 3:49
0 : off
43 : 1
85 : 2
127 : 3
Synth Filter KBD Track - 3:50
0 : off
43 : 1
85 : 2
127 : 3
Synth Filter Type - 3:51
0 : LP12
26 : LP24
51 : LPM
77 : LP+HP
102 : BP
127 : HP
Synth Filter Envelope Velocity - 3:64
0 : off
127 : on
Synth Amp Envelope Velocity - 3:56
0 : off
43 : 1
85 : 2
127 : 3
Synth Arp/Gate Mode - 3:72
0 : Arp
64 : Poly
127 : Gate
Synth Arp/Gate Direction - 3:74
0 : Up
43 : Down
85 : Up/down
127 : Random
Synth Arp/Gate ZigZag - 3:75
0 : off
127 : on
Synth Arp/Gate Pattern On - 3:73
0 : off
127 : on
Synth LFO Waveform - 3:80
0 : Triangle
32 : Saw
64 : Inv Saw
96 : Square
127 : S/H
Synth LFO Destination - 3:81
0 : off
43 : Osc to Ctrl
85 : Osc to pitch
127 : Filter
Synth Unison - 3:18
0 : off
43 : 1
85 : 2
127 : 3
Synth Sample Bright - 3:8
0 : off
127 : on
Synth Sample Cat/Sample - 3:4 : x: x Not done yet Will change if different order / samples
Synth Waveform - 3:2 Not done yet
Mod 1 Enable - 2:64
0 : off
127 : on
Mod 1 Type/Variation - 2:65
0 : Autopan
12 : Variation Autopan
24 : Tremolo
35 : Variation Tremolo
47 : AutoWah
58 : Ring Modulation
70 : Variation Ring Modulation
81 : AutoWah
93 : Wah
104 : Wah with pedal
116 : Pump
127 : Pump with pedal
Mod 2 Enable - 2:72
0 : off
127 : on
Mod 2 TypeVariation/ - 2:73
0 : Phaser
12 : Variation Phaser
24 : Flanger
35 : Variation Flanger
47 : Chorus
58 : Variation Chorus
70 : Vibe
81 : Variation Vibe
93 : Ensemble
104 : Variation Ensemble
116 : Spin
127 : Variation Spin
Delay Enable - 2:88
0 : off
127 : on
Delay Analog - 2:89
0 : off
127 : on
Delay Ping-pong - 2:91
0 : off
127 : on
Delay Filter Type - 2:92
0 : off
43 : LP
85 : HP
127 : BP
Amp/EQ Enable - 2:80
0 : off
127 : on
Amp/EQ TypeVariation/ - 2:81
0 : off
15 : Twin
24 : Variation Twin
43 : JC
57 : Variation JC
71 : Small
85 : Variation Small
99 : To Rotary
113 : LP Filter
127 : HP Filter
Reverb Enable - 2:104
0 : off
127 : on
Reverb Bright - 2:106
0: Normal
64 : Dark
127 : Bright
Reverb Type/Variation - 2:105
0 : Spring
12 : Variation Spring
24 : Booth
35 : Variation Booth
47 : Room
58 : Variation Room
70 : Stage
81 : Variation Stage
93 : Hall
104 : Variation Hall
116 : Cath
127 : Variation Cath
Compressor Enable - 2:96
0 : off
127 : on
Compressor Fast - 2:97
0 : off
127 : on