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Hey!

I was searching for some Roland (MKS-20/XV-5080/D-50) samples made by a certain company that doesn’t sell them anymore. I think my post got deleted by admin. If not from here, does anyone have any tips on where I could find these samples? Would be such a waste having these great samples floating around for nothing

Thx!

Hi,

I have no idea which company and which samples you are talking about, but there are numerous Roland samples available here in the forum and on the nordusersounds.com webpage, just try searching.

Do you have any specific sample(s) in mind and can you let us know which one(s)? There might be a chance that someone has saved it and can get it over to you

It would be very helpful if you can list what sounds you're looking for specifically. MKS sounds are all available here: nord-user-samples-nsmp-samples-f14/gosp ... 12-10.html

See here:
https://www.thomann.co.uk/roland_cloud_d_50.htm
The D50 is a currently sold product so I do not think here would be the place to be asking for such files.

Mr_-G- wrote: ↑08 Aug 2024, 12:13 See here:
https://www.thomann.co.uk/roland_cloud_d_50.htm
The D50 is a currently sold product so I do not think here would be the place to be asking for such files.

The D50 was also a digital synth from the 80's... Roland also sells the JD and XV synths on their cloud I believe. These synths were around decades before this software and they are also re-sampled in many other manufacturers' synths (without crediting Roland.) I don't think the OP is asking someone to sample the currently available Roland Cloud version.

In case the response has something to do with no one here owning the rights to the original D50, JD800 and XV sounds from the hardware, that's true but the vast majority of samples on this site and Nordusersounds are taken of samples from old (or current) PCM hardware. So if it is wrong to post samples from the Roland D50 synth, the same rule should apply to the vast majority of samples here.

Thanks for the answers! Yeah I meant the SC Sounds samples of Roland stuff. (Got my post deleted last time so tried to avoid using the name)
It’s true that there are of course copyright issues because Roland is still selling their vintage sounds, but like the previous poster said, that would apply to all the roland samples posted in this forum too. So what I’m asking for is products made by SC Sounds that they won’t sell anymore. So they wouldn’t be losing any money in this case..

I'm not familiar with SC Sounds but from a brief look their "super digital" seems to have a lot of these types of sounds. They may or may not be the ones you're looking for. They sound rather nice anyway -- I always like these vintage 80's and 90's PCM synths.

I can’t see why sharing commercial sounds from SC Sounds should be less a copyright violation than sampling sounds from an original vintage Roland synth, I think it’s just the opposite. It doesn’t matter if SC Sounds is still selling some, nor if they had violated copyrights themselves when creating these samples (by the way we don’t know if they pay royalties to Roland and other for example), but if their license terms provide just the right to use their samples but not sharing them you would not be allowed to share and therefore violate their rights, no matter if they are still available or not and if they therefore still make money with them or not.

I am not sure if Roland had any restrictions with regards to sampling sounds in their user license terms back in the days when these vintage synths were available, maybe they didn’t even thought about the possibility to sample these sounds and re-use them in other instruments/devices. If someone still has access to the original set of documents shipped with these devices he/she may be willing to check.

Re-sampling sounds of one of the Roland software replications is a different story, even though the sounds might be the same, depending on the terms of Roland’s user licenses for these software instruments

Roland sells the Tool and has no rights on the works with it. But Schorsch is damn right - we all should read the Copyrights-Agreement in the Instrument Paperwork more carefully.

But even if the Situation for the Moment seems to be clear, this relates to an own Work / an own built Sound - for the Presets it could be different, if the usage in Songs is not clearly stated as allowed in the Manual .

And in the next step will be, how far a sound has to be programmed form the preset till it can be named "own"? Welcome to the hell of licensing agreements...

With very few exceptions, these small companies reselling samples from other brands (have seen it done with Nord samples as well) are not doing it with permission of said larger brand (let alone paying them royalties.) While the concept may be the same whether the samples are free or not, it becomes a much bigger deal to these larger companies when money is involved. I could be wrong but my guess is Roland forced them to take those samples down as they are making a commercial product which Roland did not approve of.