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				Let's do the Wurlitzer poll.
				Posted: 18 May 2024, 23:23
				by Gambold
				Oh yeah...wait...
			 
			
					
				Re: Let's do the Wurlitzer poll.
				Posted: 19 May 2024, 23:47
				by dansnord
				You never fail to crack me up, Gambold!
			 
			
					
				Re: Let's do the Wurlitzer poll.
				Posted: 20 May 2024, 13:27
				by Nordine
				Hey! what is a Wurlitzer?  

 
			
					
				Re: Let's do the Wurlitzer poll.
				Posted: 20 May 2024, 17:10
				by FZiegler
				You'll see: The Wurlitzer sound will be the first one Nord will introduce via physical modelling. Will be a new engine: The PM engine - replacing the sample synth unit. Will be _the_ new feature on NE7. 
Customer created rumour.
			 
			
					
				Re: Let's do the Wurlitzer poll.
				Posted: 20 May 2024, 17:49
				by ericL
				It is disheartening to realize that the current Wurly samples from Nord are really old.
- Wurlitzer - March 11, 2011 (8.2 MB)
- Wurlitzer 2 Amped - December 20, 2013 (23.0 MB)
I've been playing Wurly sounds on Nords dating all the way back to the NE2 that I bought in about 2002, so that sample is likely an earlier variant of the older Wurlitzer sample. On the NE2, I felt like it was one of the best Wurly sounds I had played on a digital keyboard, when combined with the onboard effects.
I remember being very excited when the Wurlitzer 2 Amped sample was released, which would have been during my NS2 era and beyond. It is a nice improvement from the prior sample and is the only one I use these days. It meets my needs. I am sure it could be even better with more depth of sampling and details around the various "bark" elements on a real Wurly. Maybe even branch off into something else besides the 200A.
As for how much more Nord can advance this iconic sound, I'm not sure. Seeing that they have created XL acoustic piano samples in excess of 200 MB, one would be curious what might be possible if they could provide a 200 MB Wurly XL sample??? Even the newest EP9 Stockholm XL is around 100 MB and the majority of the other Rhodes samples are a lot smaller...so perhaps this is just an outcome of EP sounds requiring less sampling bandwidth when compared to a concert grand piano? I am not technical enough to know the answer to this question.
In any event, I would be overjoyed if Nord released another Wurly sample that improved upon what they have on the shelf from 11-13 years ago.
			 
			
					
				Re: Let's do the Wurlitzer poll.
				Posted: 20 May 2024, 19:56
				by Gambold
				The Wurlis sound better if you load the new versions that use the DYN filters.  
If you loaded your Wurlis awhile ago you may not have these.
			 
			
					
				Re: Let's do the Wurlitzer poll.
				Posted: 20 May 2024, 22:12
				by Nordine
				ericL wrote: ↑20 May 2024, 17:49
.....one would be curious what might be possible if they could provide a 200 MB Wurly XL sample??? 
 
'Wurlitzer 2 Amped' is a V6 XL version but only around 23MB.
 
			
					
				Re: Let's do the Wurlitzer poll.
				Posted: 01 Jul 2024, 23:50
				by laservampire
				Gambold wrote: ↑20 May 2024, 19:56
The Wurlis sound better if you load the new versions that use the DYN filters.  
If you loaded your Wurlis awhile ago you may not have these.
 
Thankyou!
I'm going to load up the new 6.x versions to see what the difference is. What should I be listening for?
 
			
					
				Re: Let's do the Wurlitzer poll.
				Posted: 02 Jul 2024, 18:36
				by daniel70
				I wouldn‘t expect too much from the newer samples. It’s not a night and day difference at all. And the Dyno filters, well the Wurlitzer would sound way too bright with them, at least for my taste.
			 
			
					
				Re: Let's do the Wurlitzer poll.
				Posted: 02 Jul 2024, 22:48
				by Gambold
				Hmm, my take is totally different. I found the pre-Dyno Wurlitizer samples to be muddy and useless.  The Dyno settings give them some life. Still not perfect or even near to it, but workable.
Of course, I don't equalize piano samples. I find using EQ on digital samples makes them sound even more artificial than they do out of the box.  I know some players here swear by EQ but my feeling is a good sample should stand on its own, and not need its treble jacked up or its mid buried to "fix" its inherent murkiness.