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Looking for Motif ES BrassOctvs

Posted: 15 Oct 2023, 01:42
by twofarmers
Hello Friends - I heard a band on a cruise ship last week that had a good brass section for the song selection. He was using a Motif ES with program number 101 BR:BrassOctvs loaded.
I've searched the Nord User sounds without success. I sold my ES rack module when I moved to the Nord platform, but I'd like to find someone who sampled this sound. It doesn't have the authentic sounds of the Nord brass, but it will work good for the songs I'm playing. Thanks for the help...Tony

Re: Looking for Motif ES BrassOctvs

Posted: 16 Jan 2024, 09:55
by hupox
Hi.
I looked at my Motif XS, but it doesn't have that sound anymore

Re: Looking for Motif ES BrassOctvs

Posted: 16 Jan 2024, 12:56
by Eriknie
If someone can supply me with a long wav file with this sound played:
- every 3th key (c-eb-f#-a-c-...) over the useful key-range
- at fixed velocity (100 or 128 depending if there is a special thrill effect at 128)
- each for 5 seconds with a gap of 1 second
- Also remove reverb and delay effects

Than I can make this into a looped .nsmp and.nsmp3 sound

Also because I'm always looking for different brass sound ;)

Re: Looking for Motif ES BrassOctvs

Posted: 16 Jan 2024, 19:38
by maxpiano
There are a few "Motif Brass" based sounds on https://nordusersounds.com , maybe note exactly that one but you may find somethign similar (?)

In any case, always consider that a Nord sample of that Motif sound will be a single waveform and mono-layer, (while the original may be multi-layer and multi-part/waveform), so it may not keep the same level of expressivity.

Re: Looking for Motif ES BrassOctvs

Posted: 17 Jan 2024, 09:52
by Eriknie
The mono-layer is limiting the use of this in a studio environment for detailed simulation. In a full band/live setting, the dynamics are less important.
I deal with that with some velocity triggered filtering and layering with a Nord Sample (I like "pop section 3") on a different velocity sensitivity

For realistic Brass sections I would use a VST/Mainstage. I did this for years, but in the end I stopped with worrying on the stabiliby of this setup (That worked perfect). And had double macBooks, Carefully updating MacOS, Mainstage and Plugins
In my band the Nord is more than good enough!

YMMV

Re: Looking for Motif ES BrassOctvs

Posted: 20 Jan 2024, 17:22
by Alino
Hi everybody,
this is my first post on this forum, I got my NS3 just few days ago.
I want to copy some sounds from the old Motif ES6 to the new one and Brass and Strings are some of them.

My first test are good and I found a way to use velocity layer (see https://www.norduserforum.com/post165677.html).
Let me sample with more accuracy and with no reverb and I will share my files.

I will really appreciate if anyone helps me make good loops, better then NSE way.

Re: Looking for Motif ES BrassOctvs

Posted: 21 Jan 2024, 18:22
by Alino
Done!
Root keys: C2 - F#2 - C3 - F#3 - C4 - F#4 - C5 - F#5 - C6.

Use (P) and (F) samples on different Panel.
Motif ES BrassOctvs(P).nsmp3
Layer velocity 0-123
(3.57 MiB) Downloaded 162 times
Motif ES BrassOctvs(F).nsmp3
Layer velocity 124-127
(574.23 KiB) Downloaded 137 times
Attack 0.5 ms
Decay max (sustain).
Release 120ms.

I'm pretty happy with the outcome of the loops.

This is my very first work,
Please let me know your comments.

Re: Looking for Motif ES BrassOctvs

Posted: 21 Jan 2024, 23:38
by cookie
Alino wrote:Done!
Root keys: C2 - F#2 - C3 - F#3 - C4 - F#4 - C5 - F#5 - C6.

Use (P) and (F) samples on different Panel.
Motif ES BrassOctvs(P).nsmp3
Motif ES BrassOctvs(F).nsmp3
Attack 0.5 ms
Decay max (sustain).
Release 120ms.

I'm pretty happy with the outcome of the loops.

This is my very first work,
Please let me know your comments.
Glad to see users using the "velocity hack trick" to have what should be a nice and powerful brass sample !

Fred

Re: Looking for Motif ES BrassOctvs

Posted: 22 Jan 2024, 16:07
by Eriknie
Alino wrote:Done!
Root keys: C2 - F#2 - C3 - F#3 - C4 - F#4 - C5 - F#5 - C6.

I'm pretty happy with the outcome of the loops.

This is my very first work,
Please let me know your comments.
Thanks, sounds great! Always good to have a universal brass section

Could you include the raw samples?
I want to make a sample that only takes one layer (without the fall)

Much appriciated.