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NS4 Whishlist (for WannitBBBad inventory)

Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 07:31
by OlivierB
1) Bring the “mono button” back (even though the NS4 can auto select when only one wire is plugged)

2) Make possible to still have the synths local sounds while “external” is selected for a synth (also see nord-stage-forum-f3/external-kills-loca ... 23705.html )

3) Solve the category & alphabetical select issue (Shift - program dial)

4) Solve the LED issue under the Shift-Init synth (LED stays black)

5) Add the possibility to have samples + waves (instead of only waves) in the OSC “Multi” category as it was in the NS3 (by using OSC2)
eg. Sample + waveform/shape or “bell” or “Noise” (with pitch detune + & - till “sub”) see video in link. (See also : nord-stage-forum-f3/osc-2-and-led-under ... 23712.html )

6) Layer Scene II should possibly do more than only memorise the “on” “off” positions of the instruments.
It would be great as the volume levels and the individual effect chains selections could also be integrated and be different in Layer Scene I & II so that we get back a kind of panel A/B. Of course even muck better if the choice of the instruments could be also different in LS I & II.
As it will affect the memory maybe think about a system setting where user could choose this possibility knowing that he won’t be able to store as many programs as initially foreseen.

7) Let the user free to choose to use the “live” button to be or the “live” mode or being a “song” mode (same remark as above if this affects memory management)

8) Make the volume controls of the instruments smarter : at this moment, imagine that in your preset the volume of a part is set to the max (all leds lit) but that the physical fader is at its minimum position. Then if you slightly move up the fader, the sound will abruptly drop to match the fader position. The best solution would be that it behaves like on mixers (f.i. Zoom L-20) : you first have to put the fader to the position matching the Led level to make it active. So the fader starts having its effect from the volume level position it was initially set on. So it is a “catch” and not a “jump”.

It could also be useful for the organ drawbars as the “sync” button there acts a bit differently just resetting the drawbars led levels to the physical levels.

Also for rotating knobs like the “filter” one. A “jump” can create undesired effects in “live”. So a “catch” would be highly appreciated.

9) 'change focus upon parameter change' = set focus to the layer as soon as you change anything to it. It would be useful if a part get's the focus if anything of that part is changed, e.g., the volume, a drawbar level for the organ, a filter of the synth section, a piano sound, ...

- If something I proposed is already existing but for one or another reason I ignore it is the case, you are welcome to tell me (and even explain how it works :)
- If something is not clear (I’m french speaking) tell me and let’s discuss so that I can rephrase

Re: NS4 Whishlist (for WannitBBBad inventory)

Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 12:58
by spradders
Big vote for Number 8.

Re: NS4 Wishlist (for WannitBBBad inventory)

Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 15:12
by WannitBBBad
Thanks for posting your list. Below are my thoughts on each.

1) Bring the “mono button” back
I agree. Until a panel change, some iteration of "Shift" plus another button might be needed. I often toggle between mono and stereo while programming to make sure the effects that sound good in stereo aren't too overwhelming when playing in mono. (Note: the NS4 doesn't auto-select by plugging in just one cable, mono must be set in the output routing).

2) Allow local synth and external on each layer
There's another forum discussion on this so it might be good for input to be gathered there.

3) Bug for Category & alphabetical select issue
I have this listed with my NS4 bugs/issues list

4) Solve the LED issue under the Shift-Init synth
I'll add this to my NS4 bugs/issues list with a link to where it was discussed

5) Expand "Multi" options.
I agree. Given the current architecture we might be limited to Nord adding "simple" waves like a sawtooth and pulse (square) wave to the Multi function. Getting back to being able to mix two sources like a sample and analog wave would likely be a "next generation" enhancement.

6) Layer Scene II Options
At a minimum, the ability to have Layer Scene 1, Layer Scene 2, or Layer Scene 1 + 2 would add a bit of flexibility and avoid the need for a second program at times.

7) Options to add Song Mode
I definitely want Song Mode. I often toggle from a program in Song Mode to Live Mode and then back to that program, so the method of toggling from one to the other needs to be easy and can't result in the system going to the first program of the eight for the "song" but whatever program was previously selected.

8) Fader Operation - Jump and Catch
Many agree with this based on another post, so I added it to the wish list with a link to that discussion.

9) Change focus upon parameter change.
I need to learn more about this as I don't yet have the NS4.

Re: NS4 Wishlist (for WannitBBBad inventory)

Posted: 26 Apr 2023, 16:18
by OlivierB
WannitBBBad wrote:Thanks for posting your list. Below are my thoughts on each.

2) Allow local synth and external on each layer
There's another forum discussion on this so it might be good for input to be gathered there.
8) Fader Operation - Jump and Catch
Many agree with this based on another post, so I added it to the wish list with a link to that discussion.
2) Can you send me the link for the local / external topic you are talking about?

8) Not only faders but also organ drawbars and knobs as for instance the “filter” one (to avoid “breaking undesired noises during lives)

Thx,

Olivier

Re: NS4 Whishlist (for WannitBBBad inventory)

Posted: 27 Apr 2023, 00:11
by kristywilke
I agree with the Song Mode addition!!! Put that back! I used it for sets (not songs) and it was such an easy way to set up a set for song based patches (which had VERY different layers and used VERY different samples.

Does anyone have a solution? One might suggest LIVE mode, but LIVE mode does not display names, and since the set consists of programs that are SONG NAMES, one would want to see that title instead of "LIVE 4..." etc.

Re: NS4 Whishlist (for WannitBBBad inventory)

Posted: 27 Apr 2023, 09:51
by DerHarms
HH 1) Velocity as Morph source

HH 2) I missed sustain at the synth envelopes

Re: NS4 Whishlist (for WannitBBBad inventory)

Posted: 27 Apr 2023, 21:36
by Mattms
I Agree with all
1) Bring the “mono button” back
2) Allow local synth and external on each layer
5) Expand "Multi" options.
6) More Layer Scene II options
7) Bring back Song Mode
8) Fader Operation - Jump and Catch
9) Change focus upon parameter change.

What do you think about those ?

1) On the Nord Stage 3 you could change a Synth sample without altering your settings by turning the "OSC1 waveform/List" knob.
Now if you're satisfied with your Synth settings but you want to try with another sample, when you turn "List", it resets the settings (that was made by the "Synth presets/List" button on the Stage 3)
It would be nice to bring back an option just to change the sample.

2) A general Decay for Arpeggiator, not only isolated notes (Like a fade out)

3) A bigger range for Arpeggiator (Max range on 0S V0.98 is 4)

4) A non-loop option for Arpeggiator (Stop at the end of the pattern or max range)

5) An option to change the On/Off Layer system, to make it like the Nord Stage 3 (Turn on a Layer don't turns off the others)

Re: NS4 Whishlist (for WannitBBBad inventory)

Posted: 27 Apr 2023, 21:46
by Philipp
1) On the Nord Stage 3 you could change a Synth sample without altering your settings by turning the "OSC1 waveform/List" knob.
Now if you're satisfied with your Synth settings but you want to try with another sample, when you turn "List", it resets the settings (that was made by the "Synth presets/List" button on the Stage 3)
It would be nice to bring back an option just to change the sample.
This works if you hold down the wave form/keep edits button.

Re: NS4 Whishlist (for WannitBBBad inventory)

Posted: 27 Apr 2023, 21:50
by Philipp
4) A non-loop option for Arpeggiator (Stop at the end of the pattern or max range)
Also add a down option. We only have up and up/down.
5) An option to change the On/Off Layer system, to make it like the Nord Stage 3 (Turn on a Layer don't turns off the others)
Not sure what you mean. For each Layer Scene you can turn on or off any number of Layers.

Re: NS4 Whishlist (for WannitBBBad inventory)

Posted: 27 Apr 2023, 22:06
by Mattms
Philipp wrote:This works if you hold down the wave form/keep edits button.
Oh nice, I didn't know
Thanks
Philipp wrote:Also add a down option. We only have up and up/down.
Yes !
Philipp wrote:Not sure what you mean. For each Layer Scene you can turn on or off any number of Layers.
For example, if you have Synth A and you just want to add Synth B, if you turn it on, it automatically turns off the Synth A.
It can be done by pressing both buttons (A and B), but when you have to often and quickly add or remove layers in Live, just have to focus on the layer you have to add (or remove) limits the mistakes (Especially when switching with Synth A B and C :crazy: )
I know Layer II is for that, but it's not enough, or at least one more layer would be ok
And I know some users seem to like this system, but if I get an option for that I would be happy so I bring it back here :angel: