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Install non-piano samples into Piano section of Electro 6?

Posted: 29 Aug 2022, 18:15
by StuartR
Background
Since the Electro 6 only supports one instance of each of it's three sound engines in a single program, you cannot create a user program that uses two different instances of any of these in the same program.

I need to create a program that contains a drum sound and a 12-string guitar sound. Both of these are only available in the Sample memory and therefore can't be used at the same time in the same program. (Yes, I'm aware this can be done with the Stage 3).

Possible workaround?
If it's possible to create and insert a custom (guitar?) sample into the Piano sample memory, you could then use it along with another one in the Sample memory (drum) in a single program, either layered or with a keyboard split.

Possible or have i over-estimated what the Nord Sample editor can do?

Re: Install non-piano samples into Piano section of Electro

Posted: 29 Aug 2022, 18:33
by FZiegler
There is a workaround, if you have the sounds in need in a free format: You could create a 'custom split sample' for the sample engine - therefor you need the sounds in a WAV file. Just use the Nord Sample Editor. You cannot edit an existing sample, though. Neither convert an synth sample into a piano sample.

As the sample formats and features for the piano and the synth engine are highly different, there is no way to load one into the other.

Re: Install non-piano samples into Piano section of Electro

Posted: 29 Aug 2022, 19:07
by maxpiano
FZiegler wrote:There is a workaround, if you have the sounds in need in a free format: You could create a 'custom split sample' for the sample engine - therefor you need the sounds in a WAV file. Just use the Nord Sample Editor. You cannot edit an existing sample, though. Neither convert an synth sample into a piano sample.

As the sample formats and features for the piano and the synth engine are highly different, there is no way to load one into the other.
and there is no editor for .npno (Piano Library/Section) samples, NSE is only for .nsmp (Sample Library/Synth Section) formats
(just to complement your already clear explanation of what' s possible what's not @FZiegler :) )

Re: Install non-piano samples into Piano section of Electro

Posted: 29 Aug 2022, 19:15
by ajstan
Here's a different approach that may or may not work. Depending upon how authentic you need the 12-string to sound, could you try one of the harpsichord samples from the piano library and tweak that to get reasonably close to what you need for where it's going to sit in the mix?

Re: Install non-piano samples into Piano section of Electro

Posted: 29 Aug 2022, 19:24
by StuartR
FZiegler wrote:There is a workaround, if you have the sounds in need in a free format: You could create a 'custom split sample' for the sample engine - therefor you need the sounds in a WAV file. Just use the Nord Sample Editor. You cannot edit an existing sample, though. Neither convert an synth sample into a piano sample.

As the sample formats and features for the piano and the synth engine are highly different, there is no way to load one into the other.
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Excellent suggestion. Thanks for the quick reply!

Re: Install non-piano samples into Piano section of Electro

Posted: 29 Aug 2022, 19:27
by StuartR
ajstan wrote:Here's a different approach that may or may not work. Depending upon how authentic you need the 12-string to sound, could you try one of the harpsichord samples from the piano library and tweak that to get reasonably close to what you need for where it's going to sit in the mix?

Another great idea! I'll give that a try first. Perhaps a Clavinet would be closer as it was used to recreate electric guitar sounds on keyboard (Stevie Wonders Superstition).

Re: Install non-piano samples into Piano section of Electro

Posted: 30 Aug 2022, 17:32
by cookie
Or use the Extern Section to trigger a guitar app (or drum app) on your iphone/ipad connected via MIDI.

Fred

Re: Install non-piano samples into Piano section of Electro

Posted: 30 Aug 2022, 18:12
by FZiegler
cookie wrote:Or use the Extern Section to trigger a guitar app (or drum app) on your iphone/ipad connected via MIDI.
Of course, you can MIDI your keyboard data - but without control through an Extern Section on the Electro 6.