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Hoher Concerto II Akkordeon

Posted: 03 Mar 2022, 11:00
by christianjwagner
Hello together,

I am a new user of a Nord Stage 3 after I sold my Nord Stage 2, and I find in general the Akkordeon section of the Nord Sound Library a little "underwhelming" - more quantity instead of quality. I play in a cover rock band in Franconia (in the south of Germany), and in typical beer festivals you need a decent Akkordeon sound for traditional Franconian or Bavarian folk music elements, best you have a real one with you. No Tango Akkordeon or French Musette, but the one you hear in "Alps style music" (Volksmusik), sometimes even with a Rocky Touch. The "Weltmeister" samples are too thin and uninspiring to me.

About two years ago, I took the Hoher Akkordeon that my father was given by his dad when he was little (in the 60s). It is a red, German Hohner Concerto II Key Akkordeon, which has survived the decades and even a basement flood in 2007. The most solid piece of instrument I've ever laid my hands on. As my father's family were rather poor farmers and it was basically the only thing of value that he possessed at the time, this has a very high idealistic value for me. Attached a YouTube video of an identical version of that instrument (similar one, I don't have it here):


I recorded the instrument at its full register setting for my Kurzweil PC3K about 3 years ago with a Shure SM7B and an Appolo Twin Audio Interface with a Neve Pre-Amp Simulation. I even samples some of the bass section for more authenticity:
  • I sampled the C and G bass and laid them out as the low part of the sample
  • I sampled the major C and G chord, which are above the basses in the sample. Due to layout reasons, there was no real place for minor chords. Sorry.
  • Then on top there are in total 2 full octaves sampled in a C-G-C interval.
I transferred the data now to the Sample Editor - et voilĂ ! Due to the layout you'll need to figure out how to best play the combination of basses, chords and melodies.

I found that with an Accordion, there is no need to sample each individual key - like that, the file is just under 2 MB and if you tweak it with some decent reverb, I feel you get an authentic German folk music Akkordeon sound. Enjoy!

Edit of my Post: an Mp3 is attached! Merged both posts since cross-posting is making it hard to follow both threads
//Berretje

Re: Hoher Concerto II Akkordeon

Posted: 03 Mar 2022, 15:02
by WannitBBBad
Thank you for posting! My grandfather's family moved here from Bohemia in the late 1800s and he left me his accordion when he passed in the 1960s. He was a good, hard-working man, and was rich only in the family he and my grandmother raised. Like your grandfather, his accordion was his prized possession, and I've always wanted to record it as you have. As you intend to provide a mp3 when you have the time, I'd also ask that you save a version of your sample in NSMP format and post it on the Forum site with the Nord User Samples so many more can enjoy your work. Thanks again, take care.
Grandpa and his Accordion.jpg
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Hohner Concerto 2 Akkordeon User Sample

Posted: 03 Mar 2022, 19:38
by christianjwagner
Hello together,

(I posted this topic in the Nord 3 Forum and one friendly user suggested I post it also here)
I am a new user of a Nord Stage 3 after I sold my Nord Stage 2, and I find in general the Akkordeon section of the Nord Sound Library a little "underwhelming" - more quantity instead of quality. I play in a cover rock band in Franconia (in the south of Germany), and in typical beer festivals you need a decent Akkordeon sound for traditional Franconian or Bavarian folk music elements, best you have a real one with you. No Tango Akkordeon or French Musette, but the one you hear in "Alps style music" (Volksmusik), sometimes even with a Rocky Touch. The "Weltmeister" samples are too thin and uninspiring to me.

About two years ago, I took the Hoher Akkordeon that my father was given by his dad when he was little (in the 60s). It is a red, German Hohner Concerto II Key Akkordeon, which has survived the decades and even a basement flood in 2007. The most solid piece of instrument I've ever laid my hands on. As my father's family were rather poor farmers and it was basically the only thing of value that he possessed at the time, this has a very high idealistic value for me. Attached a YouTube video of an identical version of that instrument (similar one, I don't have it here):


I recorded the instrument at its full register setting for my Kurzweil PC3K about 3 years ago with a Shure SM7B and an Appolo Twin Audio Interface with a Neve Pre-Amp Simulation. I even samples some of the bass section for more authenticity:
  • I sampled the C and G bass and laid them out as the low part of the sample
  • I sampled the major C and G chord, which are above the basses in the sample. Due to layout reasons, there was no real place for minor chords. Sorry.
  • Then on top there are in total 2 full octaves sampled in a C-G-C interval.
I transferred the data now to the Sample Editor - et voilĂ ! Due to the layout you'll need to figure out how to best play the combination of basses, chords and melodies.

I found that with an Accordion, there is no need to sample each individual key - like that, the file is just under 2 MB and if you tweak it with some decent reverb, I feel you get an authentic German folk music Akkordeon sound. Enjoy!

Re: Hoher Concerto II Akkordeon

Posted: 03 Mar 2022, 19:45
by christianjwagner
hey thanks for your suggestion. I placed the regular sample file in the other forum and already uploaded two audio examples.
Great story with your Grandfather. Bohemia is such a beautiful region (not even 3 hours away from me).

Re: Hohner Concerto 2 Akkordeon User Sample

Posted: 03 Mar 2022, 20:51
by WannitBBBad
Very nice, can't wait to try it!

Re: Hoher Concerto II Akkordeon

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 15:00
by verbalakrobat
Great samples indeed, Christian!

Will use them for the exact same song ;-)

Have a good weekend!

Re: Hoher Concerto II Akkordeon

Posted: 07 Mar 2022, 03:40
by Ton Beljon
Great job! Thanks!