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Advanced transpose function
Posted: 10 Sep 2020, 10:56
by jacobkbhs
Is it possible to just transpose the upper tone when you play? I would like to transpose the melody tone one octave up... but cannot manage how this could be done... any ideas?
My keyboard is Nord Piano 3 btw..
Re: Advanced transpose function
Posted: 10 Sep 2020, 12:26
by maxpiano
Every section of your NP3 has an Octave Up/Down function (see the 2 buttons with that label on teh panel and/or check the NP3 manual)
Re: Advanced transpose function
Posted: 10 Sep 2020, 12:30
by Hlaalu
...but you'll have to split the keyboard into zones first. Check the manual for split points. Once the keyboard is split and the (piano) engine is set to each zone, you can octave-up or down it.
Re: Advanced transpose function
Posted: 10 Sep 2020, 13:05
by maxpiano
Hlaalu wrote:...but you'll have to split the keyboard into zones first. Check the manual for split points. Once the keyboard is split and the (piano) engine is set to each zone, you can octave-up or down it.
Good point, I was taking that for granted but better be explicit
However the NP3 has only 1 piano section and 1 Sample Synth section, so it is into possible to have the piano on both parts (Lower/Upper) and with different octave
Re: Advanced transpose function
Posted: 10 Sep 2020, 13:35
by jacobkbhs
I was not very clear in my question, Sorry. What I really want is to be able to play a chord and no matter Where I play it on the piano, the highest tone in the chord will be +1 octave - and the other tones in the chord will remain the same. I highly doubt this is possible - but I would love the possibility.
Re: Advanced transpose function
Posted: 10 Sep 2020, 14:04
by maxpiano
jacobkbhs wrote:I was not very clear in my question, Sorry. What I really want is to be able to play a chord and no matter Where I play it on the piano, the highest tone in the chord will be +1 octave - and the other tones in the chord will remain the same. I highly doubt this is possible - but I would love the possibility.
Impossible and not just with the NP3, most keyboards I know or I ever used wouldn't do that, something like that could only be done by a good MIDI Event Processor (either dedicated or in-app, for example using the MIDI scripting engine of Mainstage, writing a custom script to implement that logic)
Re: Advanced transpose function
Posted: 10 Sep 2020, 14:53
by Hlaalu
Please forgive me for going a bit off-topic, but what kind of effect, musically, are you trying to achieve?
Because it seems to me that what you describe would lead to quite unpredictable results. It would depend on which voicing exactly you use for each chord most of all, but again, not in a way that's predictable enough for you to want to implement such feature as being ON by default for every chord you play.
Also, from the sheer technical point of view it's not going to be that straightforward I am afraid. You'd have to tell it "octave-up the highest note of a chord made of more than X notes" -- because otherwise the only note you play will be the highest, and get transposed, which I guess it's not what you want.
Also, you'll have to split the keyboard in some way otherwise any note you play with your right hand will be counted as the "highest" of the chord and get transposed -- unless you set up some sort of "consider a group of notes to be a chord only if spaced no more than X notes apart" command... again, not as simple. I'm not sure all of this is worth the benefit, for whatever it may be...
Re: Advanced transpose function
Posted: 10 Sep 2020, 15:11
by jacobkbhs
I get your pointe

It was just an idea that came to my mind... to make the melody stand out more clearly. But I understand your thoughts. Thanks guys!
Re: Advanced transpose function
Posted: 10 Sep 2020, 17:22
by FZiegler
I'm not fully aware of what it would be like to play that. But I guess you would have to play not in a piano, but in an organ style manner (without sustain, keeping the melody in your fingers): When I play a melody on my piano, I often use sustain - but would a note that is off again but still sustained remain the highest note or another lower note get to be considered the new highest note and then affected by the automatism? I'm not so sure.