Hi all,
How can we find out the models of the piano samples? Some are easy eg Grand Lady D is a Steinway D. But for example what model Fazioli is the Italian grand, what is the Velvet grand, what is the Amber upright or what model Bosendorfer is the Queen upright etc?
Thanks Pete
Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?
This is often not mentioned directly, but there is often a clue on either the name or the info you see when you press the info button.
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?
a rose is a rose is a rose, by any other name smells just as sweet. it's all about the sound, not the name....
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?
That and also a search on this forum may help...baekgaard wrote:This is often not mentioned directly, but there is often a clue on either the name or the info you see when you press the info button.
also true @Pablo "the poet" Mastodonpablomastodon wrote:a rose is a rose is a rose, by any other name smells just as sweet. it's all about the sound, not the name....
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?
Maybe true everything, but as a beginner, I would like to know a little more especially about the miking and the optimal uses. I find the given names quite helpful for a first impression and somewhat cute, but don't like them much - I'm coming from classical music, and it makes my stomach rumbling having to play just a "white", a "bright" or a "queen" piano - not to mention "velvet" which I don't like as a feeling at all. And as there are words to discern the different sounds, I would appreciate having other connotations for those sounds.
I fully understand that Clavia may not be allowed to mention the names of the instruments as far as it is a branding thing. But we should be allowed to share real names if we have hints, don't we?
I guess that as soon as my ears will recognize the sounds, I won't need the names any more - but at the moment, I think I do. And maybe, I will even then say "the 2019 Steinway approach" instead of "White Grand".
BTW: What do you think about a "knowledge base" in the forum where faq info is stored? I think I sometimes came across such piano info on the forum but couldn't find that again - even with the search function. I also had to find out about the way the Stage 3 is handling sound names. Could have been easier if you know that (trunking the version no. with space before).
Edit: Sorry, there is one - I hadn't noticed, or forgotten.
(last updated: 2024-04)
(got corrupted, probably during forum software update and format change; restored version in a later post)
I won't label the timbre of the APs because this will schedule too much. Besides, most information given at the moment is available through hints that anyone can get with a Nord under his/her fingers. There are some claims and rumours about relations to SampleTekk sounds; the only one I really believe in is this short forum entry. Time details thanks to a post from ajstan.
I fully understand that Clavia may not be allowed to mention the names of the instruments as far as it is a branding thing. But we should be allowed to share real names if we have hints, don't we?
I guess that as soon as my ears will recognize the sounds, I won't need the names any more - but at the moment, I think I do. And maybe, I will even then say "the 2019 Steinway approach" instead of "White Grand".
BTW: What do you think about a "knowledge base" in the forum where faq info is stored? I think I sometimes came across such piano info on the forum but couldn't find that again - even with the search function. I also had to find out about the way the Stage 3 is handling sound names. Could have been easier if you know that (trunking the version no. with space before).
Edit: Sorry, there is one - I hadn't noticed, or forgotten.
(last updated: 2024-04)
| Name | Version | Instrument presumed | Technical notes | Released | Sizes, MB (legacy) |
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| Soft Grand | 6.1 | Yamaha G2 | ? | 12/2023 | 200/117/97/61 |
| White Grand | 6.3 | Steinway B-211 | ? (by SampleTekk 2016?, maybe related to SampleTekk's White Grand) | 06/2019 | 204/130/114/69 |
| 6.1 | 245/155/110/67 | ||||
| Royal Grand 3D | 6.1 | Yamaha S6 | dummy head (ambient), for use with headphones | 12/2016 | 208/103/86/54 (200/99/82/51) |
| Velvet Grand | 6.1 | Blüthner Model 1 | ? | 12/2015 | 197/112/92/61 (190/106/87/58) |
| Silver Grand | 6.1 | Shigeru Kawai SK-7 | ? | 07/2015 | 203/105/89/55 (194/100/85/53) |
| Italian Grand | 6.1 | Fazioli ? | slightly ambient? | 12/2012 | 189/101/85/51 (182/97/82/49) |
| Bright Grand | 6.1 | Yamaha S4 | ? | 06/2011 | 195/88/74/45 (196/87/72/44) |
| Grand Imperial | 6.1 | Bösendorfer Imperial | ? (maybe related to SampleTekk's Emperor MkII) | 03/2011 | 198/90/75/44 (197/90/74/44) |
| Grand Lady D | 5.3 | Steinway D-274 | (maybe related to SampleTekk's Old Lady Mk2) | 03/2011 | 79/61/39 |
| Studio Grand 1 | 5.3 | Yamaha C 7 | close-up (derived from SampleTekk's The Big One Mk2) | 03/2011 | 69/57/35 |
| Studio Grand 2 | 6.2 | Yamaha C 7 | close-up, custom preamps (maybe related to SampleTekk's 7CG Mk2) | 03/2011 | 177/94/81/49 (69/55/34) |
| Concert Grand close | 5.3 | Steinway D-274 | close-up, for live (related to SampleTekk's Black Grand Mk2) | 03/2011 | 58/46/29 |
| Concert Grand ambient | 5.3 | Steinway D-274 | ambient: concert hall, for recording (related to SampleTekk's Black Grand Mk2) | 03/2011 | 57/44/29 |
| Steinway No1 | 5.2 | Steinway No.1 'Kitchen Piano' replica (1836/2006) | ? | 01/2017 | 132 |
| Mozart FortePno A.Walter | 6.1 | Anton Walter Fortepiano (1780~1800) | ? | 01/2016 | 157/110/95/59 (149/105/91/56) |
| Beethoven ForteP Broadwood | 5.3 | Thomas Broadwood Fortepiano (~1820) | ? | 01/2016 | 151/99/84/52 |
| Perl Upright | 6.0 | Grotrian-Steinweg Mod. 120 | ? | 12/2022 | 182/121/102/65 |
| Felt Piano | 6.2 | Yamaha SU118 | modified: felt inserted between hammers and strings | 01/2022 | 186/115/97/61 |
| Baby Upright | 6.1 | Nordiska compact | ? | 12/2017 | 136/95/83/50 (124/87/76/46) |
| Amber Upright | 6.2 | Grotrian-Steinweg Concerto G132 | ? | 07/2017 | 165/102/87/53 (162/100/84/51) |
| Bambino Upright | 6.1 | Baldwin spinet piano (Acrosonic, as Pscooter63 guesses) | 6.1 L and XL have an issue on the loudest F6 and F#6 sound; obviously, 6.2 (available through the NP5 factory bundle) and 5.4 versions don't (see here) | 07/2016 | 132/102/86/55 (125/97/82/52) |
| Mellow Upright | 6.1 | Bösendorfer C 130 | extra soft felt hammers | 10/2014 | 170/98/81/50 (171/98/80/50) |
| Grand Upright | 5.4 | Yamaha U3 | ? | 10/2013 | 160/86/71/43 |
| Queen Upright | 5.3 | Bösendorfer ? | ? | 03/2011 | 66/52/32 |
| Black Upright | 6.1 | Petrof 132 | softened hammers | 03/2011 | 79/59/38 (65/52/33) |
| HonkyTonk Upright | 6.1 | Baumgardt | modified: nails replacing felt hammers | 03/2011 | 57/47/29 (55/45/28) |
| Saloon Upright | 5.3 | Baumgardt | detuned | 03/2011 | 61/49/30 |
| Romantic Upright | 6.1 | Schimmel Fortissimo 108 'Chippendale' (1967) | ? | 03/2011 | 73/59/ (60/48/29)36 |
| BlueSwede Large Upright | 5.3 | Östl... |
I won't label the timbre of the APs because this will schedule too much. Besides, most information given at the moment is available through hints that anyone can get with a Nord under his/her fingers. There are some claims and rumours about relations to SampleTekk sounds; the only one I really believe in is this short forum entry. Time details thanks to a post from ajstan.
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?
I'm convinced that the Bambino is a Baldwin Acrosonic, although what year I couldn't begin to guess. Sonically, it's a dead match for my mom-in-law's, from the mid-1940s.
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?
Haven't ever seen an instrument like that: Baldwin Acrosonic from 1955, another one even more beautiful. I've rather seen some old hulks in the family with 1.5 times the volume - sound astonishingly quite near: not really bright, but rather thin - a little muffled, but with little bass.
Thanks, PScooter63, for that tip: I'll get it back onto my Stage, had already kicked it off.
Thanks, PScooter63, for that tip: I'll get it back onto my Stage, had already kicked it off.
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Re: Which pianos were sampled for the Nord piano library?
Yes - I must remember that!pablomastodon wrote:a rose is a rose is a rose, by any other name smells just as sweet. it's all about the sound, not the name....