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Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby Ivan Jochner » 22 Apr 2019, 22:01

analogika wrote:
Ivan Jochner wrote:( But i am still SHOKED that so " powerfull" Synth section in NS 3 SUCKS when it comes to recreate such Synth Brass , requiring sampling....((((

Dude.

You’re talking about an MKS-70.

Might as well complain about the Stage 3 (or any other existing synth) being inadequate at reproducing a Memorymoog, or a CS-80.


Nope, its still the MKS -80.

( I know what you mean, but as always its disered to have all in one))
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Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby analogika » 22 Apr 2019, 22:30

Sorry. Typo (maybe auto-correct; I tend to mention the 70 fairly often, as I own two of them).
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Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby DJKeys » 23 Apr 2019, 00:35

On the Stage 3, that sound would require both synthesis and samples.

In my experience, most really great sounds from the Stage Keyboards are a combination of both.

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Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby DJKeys » 23 Apr 2019, 00:39

Ivan Jochner wrote:( But i am still SHOKED that so " powerfull" Synth section in NS 3 SUCKS when it comes to recreate such Synth Brass , requiring sampling....((((


This is not true at all in my opinion.

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Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby DJKeys » 23 Apr 2019, 02:49

Here is a quick patch for you. You can tweak it to taste for your band.

Does it have the panache attack of the Roland? no. Does it use any samples? No (not sure why you are opposed to this, as it is a powerful part of the NS3 Synth engine). Will any audience care about the difference? I doubt it.

Glad I don't have to play this song!



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Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby Ivan Jochner » 23 Apr 2019, 11:41

DJKeys wrote:Here is a quick patch for you. You can tweak it to taste for your band.

Does it have the panache attack of the Roland? no. Does it use any samples? No. Will any audience care about the difference? I doubt it.

Glad I don't have to play this song!



Horns.ns3f


Thanks for help anyway, but Nord is miles away from what it shoud sound like proper Synth Brass))
P.S. But people do care what it sounds like, at least in my band.
I have got proper "Final " Brass on my Motif xs, and some samples made on Jx8P, but my aim was to use just NS 3 Synth section without samples.


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Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby analogika » 23 Apr 2019, 11:57

Ivan Jochner wrote:( But i am still SHOKED that so " powerfull" Synth section in NS 3 SUCKS when it comes to recreate such Synth Brass , requiring sampling....((((

FWIW, Joey Tempest mentioned that they used ELEVEN synths for the original „Final Countdown“, so I’m not sure it counts against the Stage 3 to need samples to get there.

https://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars ... own-640575

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Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby Schorsch » 23 Apr 2019, 12:19

Ivan Jochner wrote:P.S. But people do care what it sounds like, at least in my band.


Yes agree - people DO care also when my band is playing, both the audience and the band mates (especially our drummer ....)


Ivan Jochner wrote:I have got proper "Final " Brass on my Motif xs, and some samples made on Jx8P, but my aim was to use just NS 3 Synth section without samples.

.. which are both sample based like the NS3 will have to be as well for this, the Nord Stage does not compare to a synth engine like a Jupiter-8 provides.
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Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby Ivan Jochner » 23 Apr 2019, 18:06



(A bit by bit will be shaping this sound to original, MKS 80 Brass patch).

Here are some files if someone needs it for collection.

(MKS 80 sample+ NS 3 original French Horns sample+ Program)
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FINAL MKS BRASS.ns3f
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FINAL MKS 80.nsmp3
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Re: ROLAND MKS 80 -SYNTH BRASS

Postby maxpiano » 23 Apr 2019, 18:20

Ivan, I think you should read the Roland Cloud policy (section d bullet e)...
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