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Nord stage 3 och Nord piano 4

Postby grahnen » 11 Jan 2019, 16:09

Hej Testar på Svenska....Funderar då på byta min kära NS 2 HA 88 mot nyare Nord... Då blir en viktig sak om skillnaden på alla klaviaturer?? Om man nu ska fortsätta med hammar aktion eller faktiskt gå över på mera lättare... Man kan man verkligen undra skillnader.. 1. Först om man då jämför NS 3 88 med min nuvarande NS 2 HA 88. Jag tycker NS 3 88 verkar lättare (vilket jag gillar) men är det verkligen så eller inbillning? 2. Sedan då NS 3 HP 76. Hammer action Portabel Vad är detta? Helt annan eller känns den hyfsat lik 88:an? Sedan då 73 Compact Waterfall... Är väl typ Electro antar jag.
Sedan kan man inte låta bli även blanda in Nord oiano 4. Är dess klaviatur lik NS 3 88? Står där något om "3 dynamic curves" på denna. Saknas detta på NS 3 88? Ibland vet man inte om Clavia Nord uppger allt i sin information. Möjligen någon som har lite koll på dessa saker?
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Re: Nord stage 3 och Nord piano 4

Postby Hervshahn » 11 Jan 2019, 16:39

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Re: Nord stage 3 och Nord piano 4

Postby cphollis » 11 Jan 2019, 16:47

grahnen wrote:Hej Testar på Svenska....Funderar då på byta min kära NS 2 HA 88 mot nyare Nord... Då blir en viktig sak om skillnaden på alla klaviaturer?? Om man nu ska fortsätta med hammar aktion eller faktiskt gå över på mera lättare... Man kan man verkligen undra skillnader.. 1. Först om man då jämför NS 3 88 med min nuvarande NS 2 HA 88. Jag tycker NS 3 88 verkar lättare (vilket jag gillar) men är det verkligen så eller inbillning? 2. Sedan då NS 3 HP 76. Hammer action Portabel Vad är detta? Helt annan eller känns den hyfsat lik 88:an? Sedan då 73 Compact Waterfall... Är väl typ Electro antar jag.
Sedan kan man inte låta bli även blanda in Nord oiano 4. Är dess klaviatur lik NS 3 88? Står där något om "3 dynamic curves" på denna. Saknas detta på NS 3 88? Ibland vet man inte om Clavia Nord uppger allt i sin information. Möjligen någon som har lite koll på dessa saker?


Hi, official language of the forum is English, please.

Thanks to Google:

"Hi Testing in Swedish .... Then think about changing my dear NS 2 HA 88 towards newer Nord ... Then it becomes an important thing about the difference on all keyboards ?? If you are going to continue with hammers action or actually move on to more easily ... You can really wonder differences ..

1. Only then compares NS 3 88 with my current NS 2 HA 88. I think NS 3 88 works easier (which I like) but is it really so or fancy?
2. Then when NS 3 HP 76. Hammer action Portable What is this? Totally different or does it feel like the 88th? Then then 73 Compact Waterfall ... Is well type Electro I guess.

Then you can't even blend in with Nord piano 4. Is its keyboard like NS 3 88? Is there something about "3 dynamic curves" on this one. Is this missing at NS 3 88? Sometimes you do not know whether Clavia Nord states everything in his information. Possibly someone who has a little check on these things?'

Can't help you much, since I have no idea what you're after ... sorry.
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Re: Nord stage 3 och Nord piano 4

Postby anotherscott » 11 Jan 2019, 17:14

2. Then when NS 3 HP 76. Hammer action Portable What is this? Totally different or does it feel like the 88th?

Totally different.

Then then 73 Compact Waterfall ... Is well type Electro I guess.

Yes, equivalent to the Electro SW.

Nord piano 4. Is its keyboard like NS 3 88? Is there something about "3 dynamic curves" on this one. Is this missing at NS 3 88? Sometimes you do not know whether Clavia Nord states everything in his information.

I don't know if there are differences in the dynamic curves, but one difference is that the NP4 uses 3 sensors per key instead of 2, which allows you to restrike a key without have to lift it as high. It is helpful for things like quiet repetitions and trills, and for being able to restrike a key without silencing it first (i.e. even if the sustain pedal isn't down).
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Re: Nord stage 3 och Nord piano 4

Postby analogika » 11 Jan 2019, 17:23

Please try to post in English — there are many here whose first language is not English, but with Google translate and lots of good will, we've always managed here. :)

The Stage 3 features the same "3 dynamic curves" as the Nord Piano 4 via the button labelled "Kbd Touch" on the piano section.

I cannot offer preference on the different hammer actions (HA vs. HP), as I use the SW waterfall compact, but the Nord Piano has triple sensors, which "probably makes NP3 being capable of faster repetitions and more dynamic nuances than in the NS3, giving a more piano-like experience than NS3", according to this thread (comparing the Nord Stage 3 and the Nord Piano 3):
post86437.html?hilit=keyboard%20action#p86437

The HP is apparently a lot lighter to play than the HA, and is optimised for easy transport.

I have read that the HA on the Stage is slightly lighter to the touch than on the Nord Piano, but I have not compared the two.
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Re: Nord stage 3 och Nord piano 4

Postby anotherscott » 11 Jan 2019, 17:47

analogika wrote:The HP is apparently a lot lighter to play than the HA, and is optimised for easy transport.

Actually, even though it is lighter to carry around, most people find it heavier to play.
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Re: Nord stage 3 och Nord piano 4

Postby analogika » 11 Jan 2019, 17:57

anotherscott wrote:
analogika wrote:The HP is apparently a lot lighter to play than the HA, and is optimised for easy transport.

Actually, even though it is lighter to carry around, most people find it heavier to play.

Ah, okay. Thanks for straightening that out.

I am obviously not qualified to comment on the piano actions.
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Re: Nord stage 3 och Nord piano 4

Postby 1000Keys » 11 Jan 2019, 18:31

anotherscott wrote:
analogika wrote:The HP is apparently a lot lighter to play than the HA, and is optimised for easy transport.

Actually, even though it is lighter to carry around, most people find it heavier to play.


My very subjective opinion: I had a NS2 HP 76, which I returned because I just could not get warm with the key action. Especially fast repetitions were not working for me, and even piano phrasing felt strange and didn't get better for me. Now I am proud owner of a NS3 HA 88, and I find it indeed easier to play, with way better repetition (e.g. for those funky clavinets etc.). I have to add that I come from an Electro 3 73, and obviously that keybed is even better for organ and fast action (but not for piano ballads etc.).

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Re: Nord stage 3 och Nord piano 4

Postby baekgaard » 11 Jan 2019, 18:35

analogika wrote:The Stage 3 features the same "3 dynamic curves" as the Nord Piano 4 via the button labelled "Kbd Touch" on the piano section.


Actually, the NP4 has 3 dynamic curves (KBD TOUCH 1, 2 and 3), whereas the NS3 has 4 (KBD TOUCH NORMAL, 1, 2 and 3). I think NP4 touch 1 is possibly the closest you get to the NS3 Normal touch.

analogika wrote:I have read that the HA on the Stage is slightly lighter to the touch than on the Nord Piano, but I have not compared the two.


Indeed. The keys are also different; the actual physical weight needed to play the keys is higher on the NP4 compared to the NS3. On my NP4, I need approximately 25% more weight on a key to make it sound.

I think the curves may also be different. They feel biased in a different way. The NP4 is more like playing a piano, so if you're mainly a piano player, the NP4 is an excellent choice.

But you will typically adjust quickly to both; I use both interchangeably -- but have a preference for the NP4 when it comes to acoustic piano playing.
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Re: Nord stage 3 och Nord piano 4

Postby anotherscott » 11 Jan 2019, 18:36

1000Keys wrote:I had a NS2 HP 76

Was it the original model or the EX?
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