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White Room (Cream)

Posted: 05 Mar 2009, 20:16
by jpcaruana
Hi, this is my White Room preset, hope you'll enjoy it.

Panel A :
B3 organ with saturation. fast leslie on aftertouch. susped is on for easy switching between panels
saturated e-piano for bigger bass
synth based on velocity : doens't trigger if you play gently

Panel B
piano + little pad + little organ

works fine with a V-Type organ, but you'll have to lower the organ, otherwise you won't hear anything.
tell me what you think, what organ do you prefer ? (don't comment the playing...) how can I improve ?
file recorded with Garage Band
ps : sorry for the bad playing.. just replaying piano after years of abstinence

Re: White Room (Cream)

Posted: 05 Mar 2009, 23:04
by kagamul
Sounds awesome!

I think I prefer the B3. Not in general - but the B3 growl is just perfect in this context! I like both organs for different things...

Thanks for sharing!

Re: White Room (Cream)

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 09:25
by Johannes
Nice patches!! Great job, in particularily with the softly layered synth. I also tend to prefer the B3, it is just perfect the less clean sound with the disto. I just thought, the Piano sounds pretty clean, which one are you using?? (My Stage is at th rehearsal room so connot try it out right now) Maybe the Upright would fit the dirty sound a bit more??
And in general with the B3 I would like to find a way that the Leslie starts a bit slower and takes longer to reach full speed, but dunno if that is possible with the STAGE at all.
I guess with that patch you can easily cut a guitarist playing Cream ;-)
J

Re: White Room (Cream)

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 09:57
by Cbas
Johannes wrote: And in general with the B3 I would like to find a way that the Leslie starts a bit slower and takes longer to reach full speed, but dunno if that is possible with the STAGE at all.
I guess with that patch you can easily cut a guitarist playing Cream ;-)
J
You can set the rotor acceleration speed in the sound menu. You can also manually control the speed change in the rotor by using morph. Hope this answers your question.

Re: White Room (Cream)

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 11:57
by Johannes
Excellent! That must have slipped through my fingers when reading the manual. Set it to "slow" now it feels (for me) much more natural. Since I control it with the Sustain Ped cannot use the Morph feature so far until I get a decent pedal. But thanks a lot for pointing this out!!! Joe

Re: White Room (Cream)

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 15:11
by jpcaruana
question : my expression pedal is set to swell mode, so if i morph the leslie speed on the experssion pedal, I would have the lowest organ level with the slowiest leslie speed.

other question : if I use damper pedal for leslie speed, how do I do with sustain on piano with an organ in the background ?

Re: White Room (Cream)

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 15:21
by Johannes
jpcaruana wrote:question : my expression pedal is set to swell mode, so if i morph the leslie speed on the experssion pedal, I would have the lowest organ level with the slowiest leslie speed.
That's true, probably there is no way to get "everything at the same time", either get another expression pedal for the Leslie, or don't use Swell, or use Damper for Laslie (or anyother morphing setup with Modulation wheel or Aftertouch)
jpcaruana wrote: other question : if I use damper pedal for leslie speed, how do I do with sustain on piano with an organ in the background ?
What I do, if the Piano is more in the foreground, leave it as it is, e.g. end up with Leslie FAST always when on sustain, OR -if the Organ is what's more important, I switch of the Sustain Pedal for the Piano sound and just add a bit of reverb/hall to it and that does the job for me.

But actually I am thinking of getting another expression type pedal as an additional control to achieve this. Anyone knows the best to get? The best woud be a combined Expression/Sustain one, meaning two pedals in one unit next to eachother. Im sure I saw it ones, but cannot remember which brand it was...

Re: White Room (Cream)

Posted: 07 Mar 2009, 17:24
by jpcaruana
Johannes wrote:I am thinking of getting another expression type pedal as an additional control to achieve this. Anyone knows the best to get? The best woud be a combined Expression/Sustain one, meaning two pedals in one unit next to eachother. Im sure I saw it ones, but cannot remember which brand it was...
you're right : I've started a post about it in "my gear" section

Re: White Room (Cream)

Posted: 08 Mar 2009, 19:41
by jpcaruana
Johannes wrote:the Piano sounds pretty clean, which one are you using?? (My Stage is at th rehearsal room so connot try it out right now) Maybe the Upright would fit the dirty sound a bit more??
I'm using the Yam Mk2 close v 3,0.
I'm not a big fan of the Upright piano (so I deleted it), but I will give it a try.
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Re: White Room (Cream)

Posted: 09 Mar 2009, 16:38
by johnny88
jpcaruana wrote:
Johannes wrote:the Piano sounds pretty clean, which one are you using?? (My Stage is at th rehearsal room so connot try it out right now) Maybe the Upright would fit the dirty sound a bit more??
I'm using the Yam Mk2 close v 3,0.
I'm not a big fan of the Upright piano (so I deleted it), but I will give it a try.
NS sounds.jpg
I noticed you're using the older version of the Yam MK2 . Is there somewhere on the clavia site where they still keep the older samples. I do have the 3.0 complete backup 'but was wondering if the individual samples are somewhere