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Poll for NS3 Owners: Organ Key Click

Postby anotherscott » 09 Jul 2018, 18:30

What key click do you like on your Nord Stage 3? I've allowed people to select more than one, in case you routinely switch back and forth among different settings.
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Re: Poll for NS3 Owners: Organ Key Click

Postby kbrkr » 09 Jul 2018, 20:31

How about; NONE. I find it annoying and never use it.
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Re: Poll for NS3 Owners: Organ Key Click

Postby anotherscott » 09 Jul 2018, 20:37

kbrkr wrote:How about; NONE. I find it annoying and never use it.

So I guess yours is set to Low? (There is no off/none setting.)

From what I understand, Laurens Hammond didn't like the key click in his design either, and he worked to try to reduce/eliminate it. Luckily for those of us who liked it, he never succeeded. ;-) It is now part of what makes something sound like a Hammond organ.
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Re: Poll for NS3 Owners: Organ Key Click

Postby analogika » 09 Jul 2018, 23:33

anotherscott wrote:
kbrkr wrote:How about; NONE. I find it annoying and never use it.

So I guess yours is set to Low? (There is no off/none setting.)

From what I understand, Laurens Hammond didn't like the key click in his design either, and he worked to try to reduce/eliminate it. Luckily for those of us who liked it, he never succeeded. ;-) It is now part of what makes something sound like a Hammond organ.

Actually, he did eventually mostly succeed. Those later organ models are the least desirable, lacklustre ones (like the L100).
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Re: Poll for NS3 Owners: Organ Key Click

Postby analogika » 09 Jul 2018, 23:35

Laurens Hammond also hated the Leslie effect.

He was a bit like the George Lucas of the organ world: he obviously had no understanding whatsoever of what made his creation magical and great, and spent most of his later career trying to ruin it completely.
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Re: Poll for NS3 Owners: Organ Key Click

Postby Quai34 » 10 Jul 2018, 07:16

I haven't got a Stage 3 yet so, I didn't vote but I'm on normal for my Stage 2 and C2...
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Re: Poll for NS3 Owners: Organ Key Click

Postby nordfizi » 10 Jul 2018, 11:33

the keyclick-volume depends very much on what headphones/speakers you are using. on headphones, even 'low' is sometimes way too loud, on a real leslie you often could use more than just 'high'. So all in all, I would be happy to get more than 3 possibilities and I would kindly welcome a 'very low' setting for headphone-use ;)
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Re: Poll for NS3 Owners: Organ Key Click

Postby anotherscott » 10 Jul 2018, 16:38

nordfizi wrote:the keyclick-volume depends very much on what headphones/speakers you are using. on headphones, even 'low' is sometimes way too loud, on a real leslie you often could use more than just 'high'. So all in all, I would be happy to get more than 3 possibilities and I would kindly welcome a 'very low' setting for headphone-use ;)

I also wish there were more settings. I'd like something higher than High.

I'm thinking of trying this experiment: Sample the lowest organ note with only the 16' drawbar out; EQ the sample to try to effectively eliminate all the tone of that low C (a narrow band parametric EQ would probably be best, since the tone is close to a simple sine wave), so that basically all that all that is left is the sound of the click. Then make a Synth sound out of that click sample, and layer it with the organ, and I could dial in whatever amount I want.
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Re: Poll for NS3 Owners: Organ Key Click

Postby Quai34 » 11 Jul 2018, 00:45

This is exactly what I was thinking yesterday, well, not the way to do it but the option to have a knob to increase the key click at will, during a live performance, not only via sub menus...It could become a new feature to tweak your sound even if it doesn't exist on a real B3...A dedicated knob....Maybe in a future C3?
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Re: Poll for NS3 Owners: Organ Key Click

Postby PScooter63 » 11 Jul 2018, 02:34

anotherscott wrote:I'm thinking of trying this experiment: Sample the lowest organ note with only the 16' drawbar out; EQ the sample to try to effectively eliminate all the tone of that low C (a narrow band parametric EQ would probably be best, since the tone is close to a simple sine wave), so that basically all that all that is left is the sound of the click. Then make a Synth sound out of that click sample, and layer it with the organ, and I could dial in whatever amount I want.

Having no access to the real thing, I'm curious: is the click a constant pitch across the keybed, or does it change character depending on that, and/or active drawbars?

(Another idea: Adobe Audition has a noise filter function, whereby it samples the "noise"... in this case, the 16' drone NOT including the click, and the app inverts its phase and applies it to the whole sample... WITH the click. Voila, click only. Maybe other apps do this?)
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