B3/leslie types - Can you hear the difference

[baekgaard]

That was a lot more relevant to the topic (and more interesting, IMO) than talking about whether transitive technology like Bluetooth, or dinky 1/8“ jacks, should be added to professional keyboards.

Guilty as charged, I fell for the bait. Sorry about sending the thread further off topic.

Me too, as already stated twice above. But ... at least both DSP/FPGA and 1/8" jack are all part of the technology of the board. It's slightly more beyond my imagination how some producers underwear got involved in the discussion on B3 sounds

[analogika]

That was a lot more relevant to the topic (and more interesting, IMO) than talking about whether transitive technology like Bluetooth, or dinky 1/8“ jacks, should be added to professional keyboards.

Guilty as charged, I fell for the bait. Sorry about sending the thread further off topic.

Hey, same here…

[anotherscott]

iDevice Sound Manager would be cool, not sure its viable, as Apple imposes numerous restrictions as to what can be done over USB.

AFAIK, Lightning is pretty much wide-open. The point of the protocol was that it can be literally anything and connect to any hardware, with the possibility of driver support built into the corresponding app.

(a) drivers have to be installed at the OS level, not from within the app, and Apple does not permit installation of custom drivers on iOS

(b) even things that don't require special drivers are not necessarily supported. For example, while you can get a USB adapter for the lightning port, iOS will not recognize an attached USB flash drive or hard drive (or even a mouse), even though these things do not require special USB drivers. (You can do these things if you jailbreak the i-device, but not otherwise.)

iOS does support class-compliant MIDI, which is why it sees the Nord, but it only sees it for the purpose of MIDI. So there may be limitations on what Nord can do with an iOS app. In general, I'd say that functions that work if you connect your instrument to your computer via the instrument's 5-pin MIDI jacks should also be available under iOS; functions that require connection only via USB are less likely to be available.

[PScooter63]

(b) even things that don't require special drivers are not necessarily supported. For example, while you can get a USB adapter for the lightning port, iOS will not recognize an attached USB flash drive or hard drive (or even a mouse), even though these things do not require special USB drivers. (You can do these things if you jailbreak the i-device, but not otherwise.)

*Ahem cough cough* Second paragraph of the description, read carefully. Granted, having the right host is a prerequisite, probably for performance reasons.
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK0W ... d%252B45b0

Sound Manager is surely I/O intensive (and thus also power intensive), look at how long it takes to do a backup, etc.

(How do we know that Nord hasn't already submitted such an app for consideration in the App Store?)

[anotherscott]

(b) even things that don't require special drivers are not necessarily supported. For example, while you can get a USB adapter for the lightning port, iOS will not recognize an attached USB flash drive or hard drive (or even a mouse), even though these things do not require special USB drivers. (You can do these things if you jailbreak the i-device, but not otherwise.)

*Ahem cough cough* Second paragraph of the description, read carefully. Granted, having the right host is a prerequisite, probably for performance reasons.
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK0W ... d%252B45b0

Yes, that is exactly the USB adapter I was talking about. Even though it gives you USB, you cannot connect a USB hard drive, USB mouse, or USB flash drive to it (even though, yes, as that paragraph says, you can plug a card reader into it). Apple is limited in what they have permitted it to support. You cannot simply plug any USB device into it that you can plug into a computer and have it see it, even if that USB device does not require installation of a custom driver. (Again, unless you jailbreak.)

Granted, having the right host is a prerequisite, probably for performance reasons.

I'm not sure what you mean by that... the iPad is the host. You mean the right device? I also don't see where "performance" would come into play, can you give an example?

Sound Manager is surely I/O intensive (and thus also power intensive)

Being I/O intensive may run down battery more quickly than programs that demand less of the processor, but, so what? BTW, the great thing about that adapter (compared to their older one) is that you can leave the charger plugged in as well, so battery drain does not have to be an issue, even if you're attaching a piece of hardware that is a real battery drain, i.e. something that actually draws power from the iPad (like some keyboard controllers).

[Gambold]

>or dinky 1/8“ jacks, should be added to professional keyboards.<

Well they already have one of those, professionalism be damned, for the monitor input.

As for my wish list - one's man treasure is another's trash. Your mileage may vary. You can put up better Leslie sims on yours

[mattbow1990]

It seems to me the transition between fast and slow is different between the 122 and the 122 close. If I remember correctly, 122 close has a more pronounced transition. Very subtle, but it is there if you listen closely. Still experimenting with the different B3 models, but I did notice the very last model on my Electro 5D has a noticeable amount of leakage.

[lordy]

And the ns3 not enough, cause bug.
Lot of people wait for an update

[SnakeLeon]

Was this problem fixed already?

[baekgaard]

Was this problem fixed already?

The models and levels of vintage all sound different, if that was what you asked?