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540 posts with NO user manual to read.Anything officially announced first on Instagram just shoes how callous this outfit has become.
Willing to bet the 1 foot organ drawbar does NOT cancel when percussion engaged.....and these clowns have the reverb in the wrong place of signal chain.
Have done absolutely ZERO to enhance or improve the organs in over a DECADE!
Been using a Neo Ventilator since 2009.Yawn.......

LeftyBass68 wrote: Willing to bet the 1 foot organ drawbar does NOT cancel when percussion engaged.....and these clowns have the reverb in the wrong place of signal chain.

No, they fixed it in the Stage 3. That has the reverb exactly where it is on any real Hammond: built-in.
(Well, the RV Leslie’s have it in parallel to the horn).

But we’ve done this discussion to death.

Also, I would prefer the 1‘ cancel, but since the percussion won’t trigger anyway when engaged on a held note, the fact that it won’t cancel the drawbar is really the smaller issue IMO…

Have done absolutely ZERO to enhance or improve the organs in over a DECADE!
Been using a Neo Ventilator since 2009.Yawn.......

That’s funny, because the addition of the close mic‘ed Leslie setting was one of the biggest improvements in the Stage 3 over the 2, for me. That was 2017.

Oh also: having no manual yet is annoying, yes, but that is literally the last thing that gets done before anything ships. Always. All interface elements and the entire software must be finalised before the manual can be thoroughly accurate.

Valpurgis wrote:Hoping that triple sensor action also is implemented for midi input so a controller keyboard with triple sensors (in my case Kawai MP11) benefit of it. Stage 3 lacked this feature.

Triple sensor has nothing to do with MIDI, it is used before the generation of the MIDI Note On/Off message but there is no standard about it at MIDI level; maybe you mean managing multiple Note ON of the same key without a Note OFF, which for example is how a VPC1 generates MIDI notes based on triple contact (middle contact not generating Note OFF) ? That could be implemented but, again, it is not a standard.

Funny that you say triple sensor has nothing to do with midi and then explain how Kawai implement it via midi. If it is a midi standard or a de facto standard has not stopped software pianos to benefit from triple sensor controlllers. nord-piano-grand-forum-f10/nord-grand-w ... 18954.html

Don’t know if that clip was posted before..

Valpurgis wrote:Funny that you say triple sensor has nothing to do with midi and then explain how Kawai implement it via midi. If it is a midi standard or a de facto standard has not stopped software pianos to benefit from triple sensor controlllers. nord-piano-grand-forum-f10/nord-grand-w ... 18954.html

From what I can tell the number of sensors is not part of the MIDI standard. The sensors are read by the keyboard's electronics and they generate a MIDI message. The number and position of the sensors are all decisions the keyboard makers implementation. Like most standards what goes and and comes out is specified by the standard, but how it is to be implemented internally is not. It's a black box and the standard says what goes and what come out what goes on inside the box the standard doesn't care about.

As maxpiano pointed out, only the relation between note-on and note-off will be relevant for triple-sensor keyboard's MIDI handling: Is it consecutive (on-off-on-off like on the Nord Piano 4/5) or is it parenthesising (on-on-off-off like with the VPC1 - sure it is on-on-off?).

I'm quite curious how the Stage 4 will handle it, but on the receiving side, I already couldn't see any problem with my Stage 3 receiving VPC1 commands.

Valpurgis wrote:Funny that you say triple sensor has nothing to do with midi and then explain how Kawai implement it via midi. If it is a midi standard or a de facto standard has not stopped software pianos to benefit from triple sensor controlllers. nord-piano-grand-forum-f10/nord-grand-w ... 18954.html

I didn't say that, read it again... I said there is no MIDI standard related to triple sensors keyboards, the receiving device has no way to know that there is a triple keyboard on the transmitting side and what "mode" it is using (see FZiegler examples); btw when I owned a VPC1 and analyzed how it works, some softsynths for example showed some unwanted behaviour when multi Note ON without OFF for the same note where received, others were working well instead.

maxpiano wrote:I didn't say that, read it again...

Please bother to the read the post I refer to catch what I am talking about. What you said was «Triple sensor has nothing to do with MIDI…» but obviously is has a clear relevance.