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Re: List of Nord Stage 2 known issues/bugs

Posted: 24 Dec 2011, 23:06
by berenger
Hi !

I am playing on my Nord Stage 2 since about 2 weeks.
OS Version 1.40

I have a great problem with the Sustain Pedal Function.

Situation:

When I play only with the Synth Section –
the Note I play when the „Sustain Pedal is going up“ sometimes will not start !

I have tried this with the Triple Pedal and also with normal Pedals.

No success !

The last played Notes - I think – should always sound for normal Live Music !

Can anyone help ?????????????????


Thanks much !

Re: List of Nord Stage 2 known issues/bugs

Posted: 26 Dec 2011, 16:26
by berenger
Nord Stage 2 – Sustainpedal Problem on Synth-Section !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is the exact description of the incorrect Sustainpedal function on the
Nord Stage 2 – Synth Section:

1.) First hold down the Sustainpedal

2.) When you now play only „1“ Tone on the Synth Section – and go up with
the Sustainpedal exactly at the same time – the tone comes only with of
about 10 Percent of the normally Volume !!!!

3.) If you try this of about 20 Times – you will hear it perhaps 4 times.
But this 4 times are 4 times too much when you make live music !!!!!!



I have tried this with the Triple Pedal and also with normal Pedals.

No success !


I hope there will be a fast Update for „Nord Stage 2“ , so I don´t need to
send my Instrument back to thomann.

Re: List of Nord Stage 2 known issues/bugs

Posted: 03 Jan 2012, 18:41
by maxpiano
Not sure if already posted, I found a problem on Organ percussion management when using an external Midi keyboard.

Here's my setup

- NS2 Program A 08.2 Jazzy Joey ( for instance)
- Lower manual on slot A, played on NS2
- Upper Manual on Slot B, set to receive MIDI in from Channel MIDI15
- I disable the split and slot layering, to have full lower and upper extension
- the problem: the upper sound organ percussion disappears... To restore it I have either to go in Dual Keyb mode or restore the slot layering...

Anybody else can try and check this? If confirmed I think it Clavia technicians should be informed.... :roll:

Re: List of Nord Stage 2 known issues/bugs

Posted: 08 Jan 2012, 22:49
by guiliguilix
Hello Maxpiano,
On a real B3 organ, percussions are only available on the upper manual, so your problem could be in fact a choice from Clavia to do the same thing. I had already noticed it and that was my conclusion.
By the way, when you play with a second keyboard, the slot A is for the upper manual (if you want to use the percussion as on the real thing...).
Bye.

Re: List of Nord Stage 2 known issues/bugs

Posted: 12 Jan 2012, 10:25
by hokiepokie
If I leave my NS2 on over night in my studio. The next day it will play a short cluster of notes when I release the pedal. Seems like a bug in the piano release function. If I reboot the problem is solved. I have the latest software installed.

Re: List of Nord Stage 2 known issues/bugs

Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 17:34
by maxpiano
guiliguilix wrote:Hello Maxpiano,
On a real B3 organ, percussions are only available on the upper manual, so your problem could be in fact a choice from Clavia to do the same thing. I had already noticed it and that was my conclusion.
By the way, when you play with a second keyboard, the slot A is for the upper manual (if you want to use the percussion as on the real thing...).
Bye.
I see... well thanks, that can be an explanation but then it doesn't explain why I can still obtain percussion also on Slot B when In Dual Keyboard mode... unless in that case Slot B becomes "Upper" and Slot A "Lower" ... :?

(in any case, it would be nice if Clavia would make this "Upper/Lower to Slot A/B" assignments explicit in the manual, or maybe they are there but I couldn't find...)

Re: List of Nord Stage 2 known issues/bugs

Posted: 18 Jan 2012, 20:52
by fabiokey
I noticed a strange bug with my NS2 76 (LAS Os , 1.40)
I did one program , two slot , each one I have fm 1 OP. is a theremin . "star trek" like program
bit of glide and mono . expression pedal NOT inserted. - bit delay in both
if I , very quicky , switch from another program to THIS ONE , sometimes the volume of THIS ONE is DIFFERENT!!!!! is lower!!!
I TRIED TO SWITCH BETWEEN OTHER SYNTH PROGRAMS , OR PIANO PROGRAM , ORGAN PROGRAMS ECC and everything is fine.
LOOKS LIKE JUST THIS PROGRAM , if you swith quickly to this one , sounds with different volume. IF , after , with keys of rotary dial , you slowly go program up and down , then the volume is right again.

I upload the program , can you check if it happens to you as well?
I reported to Clavia as well.

Re: List of Nord Stage 2 known issues/bugs

Posted: 22 Jan 2012, 19:59
by maxpiano
I found another problem or bug which I don'know if already mentioned in this forum.

I was trying to layer 2 instances of the Bari-Horn Trio sound in the synth, to play woth auto pan and try some special stereo processing, so I loaded it in both slot A & synth then enabled both slots to start the layer (NB: no effects applied yet) and.... Instead of hearing the same sound in a 2-note unison, I heard a completely different sound, as if some frequencies were being cancelled between SynthA and SynthB :shock:

Cannot tell what is this due to but I guess some problems in managing this type of condition in current firmware (?)

Anybody else found this or can try to reproduce?

Re: List of Nord Stage 2 known issues/bugs

Posted: 22 Jan 2012, 21:44
by fabiokey
Hi max
I think is a normal phisical audio issue , not depending on the keyboards. If you put the same sounds in both slot and you enable both of them , the sounds play in same frequency one on another , so they......cancel themselves reciprocally :-) this will happen with every sample. Try to put two same acoustic pianos , slot a and b , and enable both....the sound will be chorused... :-)

with the synth samples , try to put one of them one octave up or down , or try to change something on one slot , filters or whatever , and you'll see sound will open.
or maybe , if you put some effect , different for each slot , something will change.

hope it helps
Fab

Re: List of Nord Stage 2 known issues/bugs

Posted: 23 Jan 2012, 19:39
by maxpiano
fabiokey wrote:Hi max
I think is a normal phisical audio issue , not depending on the keyboards. If you put the same sounds in both slot and you enable both of them , the sounds play in same frequency one on another , so they......cancel themselves reciprocally :-) this will happen with every sample. Try to put two same acoustic pianos , slot a and b , and enable both....the sound will be chorused... :-)

with the synth samples , try to put one of them one octave up or down , or try to change something on one slot , filters or whatever , and you'll see sound will open.
or maybe , if you put some effect , different for each slot , something will change.

hope it helps
Fab
I am sorry Fabio but I disagree; cancellation occurs only if you invert the phase and add, but why should slot A & B do that (invert the wave's phase)?
If the phase is the same you should get the same sound at double volume, instead.... (if you are still not conviced, just draw 2 sine or triangle waves on a sheet of paper and build their overlap wave by "summing" their value point to point) 8-)

The chorusing (detuning) on pianos instead is by design (and on NS2 you can set its amount from 0 to 4) ;)

So I still consider this a bug. :roll: