Please bring back "pending load" mode on the NS3

[Frantz]

Please add a "pending load" mode on the NE5, please

I'd like to scroll through the sounds, while I play, because I may find a preset, some inspiration / idea, looking at the list.

[PScooter63]

As I mentioned in another thread, it looks like Yamaha recently solved this on a new instrument: a rotary encoder that clicks when pressed... so scrolling has no effect until you click on the desired selection.

(Potential UI trap: how to “get back” to the program/song you’re on, if you decided to edit and save.)

[ericL]

Another vote here to get Pending Load added to the functionality of the NS3. I've been playing the NS2 since it first came out and use Pending Load for every performance. I'm very addicted to it. I've just recently picked up a NS3 and have only been playing with it a bit at home. The Seamless Transition capability is pretty awesome, I will say. But I would still like to have Pending Load. I wonder if it's trickier to implement pending along with seamless? Seems like just a little bit more code would allow for it, but not sure of the technical limitations or if Nord simply has not had time to do it. In the meantime, I'm going to get very familiar with the new Song and Setlist stuff to see if I can work up a way to not be dependent on Pending Load.

[AlexNagel]

Let's not forget this issue...

[cgrafx]

Another vote here to get Pending Load added to the functionality of the NS3. I've been playing the NS2 since it first came out and use Pending Load for every performance. I'm very addicted to it. I've just recently picked up a NS3 and have only been playing with it a bit at home. The Seamless Transition capability is pretty awesome, I will say. But I would still like to have Pending Load. I wonder if it's trickier to implement pending along with seamless? Seems like just a little bit more code would allow for it, but not sure of the technical limitations or if Nord simply has not had time to do it. In the meantime, I'm going to get very familiar with the new Song and Setlist stuff to see if I can work up a way to not be dependent on Pending Load.

I realize this isn't the exact same thing, but if you use an external tablet like an iPad you can use a tool like TouchOSC and get instant access to any program you need.

I did this on my NE5 with an iPad mini so I could change patches directly. I added a simple overhead projector sheet printed with the button numbers on it to make it daylight visible when we play outdoors.

I only implemented 20 patch locations, but it would be simple to fill the entire screen and add page buttons so this solution is easy to scale to hundreds of patches.

It would take a bit more upfront work to code for two panels (Panel A/B) but not difficult, just time to set it up.

Its very liberating not to have to scroll through lists of patches, and in my case I usually work with some pretty basic configurations (piano, organ, Rhodes, etc) so aside from specialty patches I don't have hundreds to wade through and its easy to remember what number is assigned to what config.

[danrv]

On my NS2, I used the same "20 most common sounds within 2 button presses" approach as the OP. (In fact, I think I was the first on the forum to suggest it!)

Yes, I use that method after reading it on here . I did consider just using one bank like on most other keyboards
but accessing any one of 100 programs quickly is not easy.

[anotherscott]

As I mentioned in another thread, it looks like Yamaha recently solved this on a new instrument: a rotary encoder that clicks when pressed... so scrolling has no effect until you click on the desired selection.

Obviously, Nord can't retrofit all your keyboards with a new encoder. But they could set it so that if you turned on the Pending Load feature (i.e. as a System setting), a scrolled-to Program wouldn't load until you hit a button... like the "Monitor/Copy Panel" button which would now double as an "Enter" button (since as it is, that button doesn't do anything unless you hold it while doing something else anyway). (ETA: Alternatively, the solution I originally suggested in the fifth post in this thread.)

(Potential UI trap: how to “get back” to the program/song you’re on, if you decided to edit and save.)

If you meant what to do if you want to exit without invoking the new sound after all, you could use the Shift/Exit button for that.

I realize this isn't the exact same thing, but if you use an external tablet like an iPad you can use a tool like TouchOSC and get instant access to any program you need.

I did this on my NE5 with an iPad mini so I could change patches directly. I added a simple overhead projector sheet printed with the button numbers on it to make it daylight visible when we play outdoors.

Yes, an iPad provides numerous ways one could fix this, i.e. ways to navigate directly from one patch to another... there are assorted apps that allow you to create various kinds of on-screen buttons which you could label and associate Program Changes with, to go directly to a given patch, TouchOSC would be one. (Maybe you could even upload your template for people to use as a starting point?) (ETA: I see someone did something similar at nord-stage-forum-f3/my-touchosc-layout- ... 19742.html )

I really like your idea about the overhead projector sheet!

[florence]

I really miss the 4 A-,B-,C- and D-"BANK" buttons from the NS2 on the NS3 which combined with the 5 "PROGRAM" buttons gave me quick and easy access to 20 (4 x 5) programs (all on one "PAGE") with only 2 buttons pressed (BANK X + PROGRAM Y).

iPad / TouchOSC solution is great but for those like me that want to avoid to add an external equipment just for this, the solution proposed by Nord is to use the Numeric Pad Mode.


NS3 you can program your favorite 25 programs in a Bank, and enable the Numeric Pad Mode (Menu System page 2)

Then all you have to do is press the Program 1-5 buttons twice !

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[anotherscott]

iPad / TouchOSC solution is great but for those like me that want to avoid to add an external equipment just for this...

and a good reason to want to avoid it, especially if your NS3 is a Compact, is that there's no place to put an iPad, or even a small velcro-able stand to hold one. There are possible solutions... put it on the free panel space of your second board if you have one, or use Nord's music stand attachment and put your iPad there (something else to buy and to bring/setup), or get a separate iPad holder to attach to your mic stand (if you also sing)... sometimes none of these are good for someone's setup, though.

Then all you have to do is press the Program 1-5 buttons twice !

That's a great tip. One shortcoming of numeric mode (2-button-access to 25 sounds) vs. the earlier Bank buttons (2-button-access to 20 sounds but also 1-button access to 5 sounds) was that you losing have any quick 1-button access sounds, but if you just think "double-click" you kind of get that back. You just have to think a little differently when you create your set of 25... you want your 5 most core sounds to not be the first 5 as you would have done on the NS2... instead, make your 5 core sounds 1-1, 2-2, 3-3, 4-4, and 5-5.

[florence]

yes that's right too

on NS3 they decided to increase the main LCD, and as the space is not extensible, they decided to remove some buttons... (program banks)