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Re: Nord Stage 3

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 09:32
by maxpiano
raomcz wrote:I just found on Nord Sound Manager v7.02 code a new entry for a new file format

NSMP3

:o

Yes, already known since a few days and discussed in some other thread too, v3.0 .nsmp format to be introduced, NS3 not compatible with previous version, still unclear what the differences are and if any conversion feature will be provided either in NSM or NSE

Re: Nord Stage 3

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 12:47
by Jo Osantos1
maxpiano wrote:
raomcz wrote:I just found on Nord Sound Manager v7.02 code a new entry for a new file format

NSMP3

:o

Yes, already known sine a few days and discussed in some other thread too, v3.0 .nsmp format to be introduced, NS3 not compatible with previous version, still unclear what the differences are and if any conversion feature will be provided either in NSM or NSE

It is very clear that will not work. If you check Nord's website, you will found that information.

Re: Nord Stage 3

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 13:28
by maxpiano
Jo Osantos1 wrote:
maxpiano wrote:
raomcz wrote:I just found on Nord Sound Manager v7.02 code a new entry for a new file format

NSMP3

:o

Yes, already known sine a few days and discussed in some other thread too, v3.0 .nsmp format to be introduced, NS3 not compatible with previous version, still unclear what the differences are and if any conversion feature will be provided either in NSM or NSE

It is very clear that will not work. If you check Nord's website, you will found that information.
I know but that's not what I wrote... incompatibility is clear, the reasons and if any conversion utility will be provided not yet clear.

Re: Nord Stage 3

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 13:50
by raomcz
I think that NS3 will be compatible just with NSMP 3.0 (NSMP3), lets wait! Old models with NSMP and NSMP 2.0.

Re: Nord Stage 3

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 16:21
by zahush76
I wonder if a new format also means some new additions to the library - and if a new format will inteoduce a new algorithm for compressing sample size even further - thus allowing a better usage of the sample memory.
Any details as to what's different about the 3.0 format?

Re: Nord Stage 3

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 16:41
by Nadroj
My guess is that because it uses the A1 synth engine programmes created with it won't be compatible with any instruments that use a different synth engine.

Re: Nord Stage 3

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 16:51
by Jo Osantos1
zahush76 wrote:I wonder if a new format also means some new additions to the library - and if a new format will inteoduce a new algorithm for compressing sample size even further - thus allowing a better usage of the sample memory.
Any details as to what's different about the 3.0 format?
Even more compression? We don't want to lose quality due to that compression..
If this is a way to fit more sample in older models... i can just say: deal with it :D

Re: Nord Stage 3

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 17:00
by maxpiano
Nadroj wrote:My guess is that because it uses the A1 synth engine programmes created with it won't be compatible with any instruments that use a different synth engine.
That will rather affect the Synth programs, not the bare Samples. Must be something else/more.. better wait for official news...

Re: Nord Stage 3

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 17:24
by zahush76
On the nord download page, nord stage 3 - it says the compatible sample format is 2.0
Go figure.

Re: Nord Stage 3

Posted: 11 Jul 2017, 18:01
by analogika
zahush76 wrote:I wonder if a new format also means some new additions to the library - and if a new format will inteoduce a new algorithm for compressing sample size even further - thus allowing a better usage of the sample memory.
Any details as to what's different about the 3.0 format?
Perhaps embedded info for basic parameters (attack, filter)?

Check out the SYNTH PRESET section in the manual — this sounds like one of the COOLEST FEATURES of the Stage 3:
Every sample loaded onto the machine comes associated with basic info, so that you can select it from the automatic "Synth preset" list and have an instantly working sample instrument without having to fiddle around.

In the Manual, p. 35, it says this:
Samp: A bank of sample presets are generated automatically, based on the sample content currently in your nord Stage 3. Pressing the Samp soft button (Program 1 button) shows all these presets. When loading a sample from a preset, Filter and Amp Envelope parameters are automatically set to values appropriate for that particular sample. Of course, these parameters can still be adjusted manually as needed.
It would make sense to expand the sample format to include that info directly within the file.

And to give us that capability in the Sound Manager/Sample Editor.