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Re: Nord Stage 3 wish list

Posted: 04 Jun 2019, 04:53
by DJKeys
I know it will never happen, but since I am "Wishing" my wish would be to make the NS 3 modular and the internal hardware boards swappable so that you could order the unit with the combination of engines you wanted.

Mine would have 4 synth, 1 piano, and 1 organ. I have never had a need for two pianos or two organs in any single program.

-dj

Re: Nord Stage 3 wish list

Posted: 04 Jun 2019, 06:15
by Quai34
Funny, I have always dreamt of playing at the same time the "real keys" so, A"Piano, E.Piano, Organ and synths...I do that a lot with the Stage 2...

Re: Nord Stage 3 wish list

Posted: 04 Jun 2019, 10:02
by RichardG
DJKeys wrote:I have never had a need for two pianos or two organs in any single program.
But in my music, I do.
I use the same piano/organ in both slots and one of them with a massive reverb and/or delay.
That way I can play reggae-dub-style chops by switching between A and B.
Here comes my request from to let the delay "ring out" when I switch it off, not cut-off like it is now. (Line 5 in the Requests tab of the sheet)
Everyone has a specific need I guess... 8-)

Re: Nord Stage 3 wish list

Posted: 04 Jun 2019, 16:14
by pablomastodon
switching back and forth between A and B is one clever way to get the massive reverb or long delay that you want, but not the only way. The reverb knob, delay wet/dry mix knob and delay on/off switch are very accessible. You can also have the delay turned off with the feedback cranked up all the way (and the rate pre-set) and just tap the button when you're ready for the delay, strike your skank once and then bring wet/dry mix all the way down. Your delays will continue to "ring out" the way you want and you can still play the piano over the top without additional delays muddying things up.

With the same piano layered an octave apart (or an acoustic with a rhodes), the higher octave can delay while the lower plays it straight. Or you can morph the wet/dry mix to pedal or wheel (or even aftertouch!) on both slots at the same time to bring in delays of both pianos on the fly whenever you want. Set to the same delay rate or for wider mind-bending set them to related tempos, perhaps one on 1/4 notes and the other on triplets....

bless, pablo

Re: Nord Stage 3 wish list

Posted: 04 Jun 2019, 16:52
by RichardG
Thanx Pablo !

Those sound as good ideas as well !
This way I can try to morph the wet/dry (if possible, not at my kbd right now) using a pedal with range/switch with 2 midi values.
If this is workable enough for me than I can drop at least the delay ring out from the feature requests.
:yourock: (or actually, you skank (the dance, not the insult !))

Re: Nord Stage 3 wish list

Posted: 05 Jun 2019, 11:26
by Y-Lnordist
There are many things that can be improved and make the NS3 a real beast.

Here some of my thoughts:

1) the possibility to have an Effect/Eq to more than one Section. Even for the possibility to have only two simultaneously would be a great and essential addition.

2) the Organ engine can be very improved in a lot of ways that has already described here by others.

3) In addition to my previous thought about the Organ, why the can't we adjust the Organ Tonewheel mode, click level, trigger point, Rotary speaker, balance, rotor and horn - PER Program !! And not only global. We want our organs to be unique, so their adjustments would be defined in each program in a different way.

4) The same issue with the synth Vibrato options (Rate &Amount) - i wanna adjust these PER synth, and not globaly!!!!
I wish it would work like the Synth Pitch Range, , which can be saved per program :)

5) The Glide will have an effect not only while mono/letato, so nordists could have crazy poly portmando chords/intervals with their synths (it can go even further if it could be applied somehow to the piano and organ sections, imagine that!).
Don't know if posibble via update only... But mindblowing.

6) having The Osc configuration to suppurt more than one configuration at a time. Like 2 or 3 Osc configurations together.

7) I know it's not fair to ask, considering how the NS3 is built, the posibbilty to have more than 2 synths engines running in a program? Which is very basic thing for a flagship keyboard to have. I don't know how it can occur on the current board.
Sometimes it is just fraustrating to have only 2 synth at a time (Even with the new Osc Config!!).
*some will say you can use extern for another synth. It is still not enough for a flagship keys, in my opinion.

That's it for now. I wrote everything I consider usefull and essential for me, even if it's a lot of work for nord to do.
Tell me what you think.

Re: Nord Stage 3 wish list

Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 10:47
by RichardG
Tried Pablo's suggestion yesterday during rehearsal.
Turning the dry/wet knob with delay does work very well for what I want (ringing out of a single stab or short phrase while playing on) so that's a "problem" solved for me.
It doesn't work that way with reverb tho', although the knob states dry/wet it is actually the decay time so can't use the same technique (turning the knob to "fully dry" cuts of the reverb immediately).
For that I'll still use the A/B setup which works quite as I like.
Since I have one of the first NS3-88 I don't know if the label has changed on later releases.

Next experiment will be using a MIDI-pedal for this so I have both hands free.

Re: Nord Stage 3 wish list

Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 11:12
by RichardG
Y-Lnordist wrote: 1) the possibility to have an Effect/Eq to more than one Section. Even for the possibility to have only two simultaneously would be a great and essential addition.
Already requested long ago : see Request-tab line 4.
Y-Lnordist wrote:2) the Organ engine can be very improved in a lot of ways that has already described here by others.
What enhancements are you talking about ?
The organ is intended to be as close to the original as possible.
Pls. send a request to Clavia and add to the request-tab
Y-Lnordist wrote:3) In addition to my previous thought about the Organ, why the can't we adjust the Organ Tonewheel mode, click level, trigger point, Rotary speaker, balance, rotor and horn - PER Program !! And not only global. We want our organs to be unique, so their adjustments would be defined in each program in a different way.
That would be nice and logical.
Pls. send a request to Clavia and add to the request-tab
Y-Lnordist wrote:4) The same issue with the synth Vibrato options (Rate &Amount) - i wanna adjust these PER synth, and not globaly!!!!
I wish it would work like the Synth Pitch Range, , which can be saved per program :)
True and should be possible too.
Pls. send a request to Clavia and add to the request-tab
Y-Lnordist wrote:5) The Glide will have an effect not only while mono/letato, so nordists could have crazy poly portmando chords/intervals with their synths (it can go even further if it could be applied somehow to the piano and organ sections, imagine that!).
Don't know if posibble via update only... But mindblowing.
Using it for piano and/or organ will not happen I'm afraid...
But it could be a nice addition, I wouldn't know since I don't use it.
Pls. send a request to Clavia and add to the request-tab
Y-Lnordist wrote:6) having The Osc configuration to suppurt more than one configuration at a time. Like 2 or 3 Osc configurations together.
Don't know what you mean by that.
Y-Lnordist wrote:7) I know it's not fair to ask, considering how the NS3 is built, the posibbilty to have more than 2 synths engines running in a program? Which is very basic thing for a flagship keyboard to have. I don't know how it can occur on the current board.
Sometimes it is just fraustrating to have only 2 synth at a time (Even with the new Osc Config!!).
*some will say you can use extern for another synth. It is still not enough for a flagship keys, in my opinion.
That would indeed be awesome and could be done by extending A/B panels to A/B/C/D but I think Clavia rather wants you to purchase an A1.
And this "solution" would also give you 4 piano's and 4 organs where another user found 2 already a bit much :-)
Another idea might be to have a rack-version of the A1 or a rack version of the NS-synth section to extend the layers.
I started out with the Nord Electro Rack 2 :Image
and a midi keyboard, but since the rack-versions aren't produced anymore (by Clavia) and apparently so obsolete they're not even under the legacy-products on the site...

Re: Nord Stage 3 wish list

Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 14:36
by analogika
pablomastodon wrote:switching back and forth between A and B is one clever way to get the massive reverb or long delay that you want, but not the only way. The reverb knob, delay wet/dry mix knob and delay on/off switch are very accessible. You can also have the delay turned off with the feedback cranked up all the way (and the rate pre-set) and just tap the button when you're ready for the delay, strike your skank once and then bring wet/dry mix all the way down. Your delays will continue to "ring out" the way you want and you can still play the piano over the top without additional delays muddying things up.
You know, I never realised that the dry/wet knob is actually an EFX SEND knob. It never occurred to me to treat it that way, and that it was simply mislabeled to make more sense to non-studio people.

Until your suggestion, above.

I use delays a lot when playing in my organ trio. Rehearsal yesterday was eye-opening.

Thanks, Pablo.

Re: Nord Stage 3 wish list

Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 15:27
by Adri-L
I would like so see that volume of the organ is pulled up. The difference between piano and the organ, or the synth and organ sound is to big.

Where the piano and synth sounds are screaming loud the organ sound is way to soft.