Does B3 organ simulation differ in Electro 5D vs. Stage 2EX?

[simonkeys]

Wow, that's great info to have. Thanks Pablo!

[Gospelkeys]

ALERT: I have triple-verified my info regarding this with Nord and it is solid. The comparison chart on the website is wrong. The NS2EX contains "regular" 122, the exact same 122 as found in C2D/C2/NE4/NE5. Period.

Pablo

Thank you Pablo for this info. Much appreciated. I hope Nord updates their web site. There has been much discussion about this on the keyboard player forum. One of the criticisms of the NS2 EX has been the lack of inclusion of an update to the B3 / leslie sim. It appears that information is inaccurate. It is great you cleared that up.

Food for thought on upgrading now vs later.....

[Spider]

I hope Nord updates their web site. There has been much discussion about this on the keyboard player forum. One of the criticisms of the NS2 EX has been the lack of inclusion of an update to the B3 / leslie sim. It appears that information is inaccurate. It is great you cleared that up.

Food for thought on upgrading now vs later.....

Pablo, I won't comment on your news because I'd have to repeat word for word what Gospelkeys said.

I'll just say: T-H-A-N-K-Y-O-U!

[Nadroj]

Okay, that I did not know. Trivial as it may be, that changes the game entirely for me. I wasn't wanting to upgrade to a Stage2EX because I didn't want to downgrade the rotary sim (it would act as my only clonewheel, so rotary sim is important to me). It means I can rehaul my live rig and not lose the rotary sim that I know and love. I think I may actually see a Stage2Ex in my future. Only thing holding me back now is the funds, but they can come in time.

That very minute, hidden detail was a make or break point for me, Pablo, and I wouldn't have known it if you hadn't personally checked. Thank you!!

[pablomastodon]

Thanks go both ways -- I wouldn't have known about the misinformation on the website without all you pitnickers out there poring over every minute detail. You've exposed a chink in my armor -- apparently I don't pay enough attention to the website. I've alerted Nord and expect that something will be changing there soon, hopefully a correction on the comparison chart at least to show that NS2 sim and NS2EX sim are not the same.

At the same time, I'll take a moment to toot my horn and make the observation that I know (most, but not all) of this stuff better that official publications.

It can perhaps be a little tricky when writing promotional materials and manuals, I suspect. In direct communication I may occasionally use the term "Leslie" but as a trademarked name Nord must instead say rotary speaker sim. Perhaps some of the writing of these materials is affected by those considerations. The passage in the manual is especially vague as to any specifics.

At any rate, all's well in Nordland tonight.

Bless,

Pablo

[Frantz]

Nice to see this question cleared. Thx.

[maxpiano]

I've alerted Nord and expect that something will be changing there soon, hopefully a correction on the comparison chart at least to show that NS2 sim and NS2EX sim are not the same.

Please tell them that manuals need to be updated too and webpages text as well, thanks

It can perhaps be a little tricky when writing promotional materials and manuals, I suspect. In direct communication I may occasionally use the term "Leslie" but as a trademarked name Nord must instead say rotary speaker sim. Perhaps some of the writing of these materials is affected by those considerations. The passage in the manual is especially vague as to any specifics.

I don't think that is the cause, from NE5 Manual:

THE ROTARY EFFECT
the rotary speaker effect of the Nord Electro 5 is modeled after a Leslie 122 (...)


Rather, if actually the NS2 EX Organ+Rotary model was updated, maybe they did it as a last minute improvement (by the coders) so this happened when the manuals, website and comparison chart had already been released?


Greetings from one of the nitpicking "pitnickers"

[Kulmahammas]

Back to his interesting subject Here is an extract from 5D manual:

"TONEWHEEL MODE
sets the amount of tonewheel crosstalk and cable leakage for the B3 Model between Clean, Vintage 1, Vintage 2 or Vintage 3. Vintage 1 is default."

I dont remember that my ex-NS2 had those.. can the organ model then be the same as with 5D?

[simonkeys]

Back to his interesting subject Here is an extract from 5D manual:

"TONEWHEEL MODE
sets the amount of tonewheel crosstalk and cable leakage for the B3 Model between Clean, Vintage 1, Vintage 2 or Vintage 3. Vintage 1 is default."

I dont remember that my ex-NS2 had those.. can the organ model then be the same as with 5D?

Did you have a NS2 or an NS2EX? The conclusion of this thread (so far) is that the NS2EX organ section was upgraded compared to the NS2.

[RedLeo]

I don't think that is the cause, from NE5 Manual:

THE ROTARY EFFECT
the rotary speaker effect of the Nord Electro 5 is modeled after a Leslie 122 (...)

I think there's a difference between saying it's modeled from a Leslie, and actually referring to it as a Leslie.