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Amadrius wrote:

miglio77 wrote:

Nordlicht wrote:Hi,

as the Stage 4 synth section is based on the Wave 2 (where this is implemented): is it possible to individually fine tune the single layers?
For example, I want to build a classic "analog" synth sound with two or three saw waves and detune them slightly.

I know this could be done with the unison function, but then you get automatically panned voices.

Thanks!

I'm sorry, I've only just read your question.
Unfortunately, in the Nord Stage 4/Nord Wave 2, there are no two-oscillator layer configurations as we know them from the Nord Stage 3/Nord Lead 4-3-2-1.

I consider this "feature" a significant omission, as in Nord Stage 4/Nord Wave 2, you need to use two layers to achieve a classic two-oscillator synthesizer setup.

It's truly absurd for both instruments, but especially for the Nord Wave 2, which has "performance SYNTHESIZER" written on the panel.
It's unacceptable that Nord is considering single-oscillator synthesizers for these two instruments.
Nord should seriously consider adding DETUNE and MIX configurations, so that users have the ability to utilize a layer for a typical two-oscillator setup.
I sincerely hope that Nord takes this matter into consideration because it's not just another request for something strange to be added here or there; it's a fundamental function of an instrument called a synthesizer.

Totally agree. We need either the mixable dual oscillator configurations that were available on the stage 3 or some other solution to have more oscillator configurations on one slot. We already have saws in 5ths, octaves, etc. if they would just add a bunch more of those that would help. The unison feature is great but it is not the same thing.

I would love it if you could set up your three slots anyway you want and “bank” the setup to just one slot. That would be extremely powerful. I guess you might run into polyphony issues with that though.

I completely agree. The mixable dual oscillator configurations that were available on the Stage 3 are of utmost importance for synthesizer players and represent a fundamental feature for creating rich and complex sounds. Although the Nord Stage 4 and the Nord Wave 2 have some waveform configurations, it's not quite the same.

It would be fantastic if Nord could implement a solution that allows for more oscillator configurations on one slot, as suggested, or allows users to fully customize all three slots and "save" that configuration to just one slot. Even if there might be a polyphony issue, I believe many users would be willing to make compromises to have access to these classic two-oscillator synthesizer configurations, which are truly fundamental for creating a wide range of sounds.

I sincerely hope that Nord takes these requests into consideration, as they would greatly enhance the versatility and usability of these instruments. Many of us are eager for these changes, and I believe they would be warmly welcomed by the community of musicians and synthesizer enthusiasts

This is a huge relief as it was a major reason that the Stage4 was off my list and now I know it is actually possible.
This leads me to another question. Are there other functions not listed in the manual like this? As a blind user, Nords are extremely easy to use for me (even their menu systems are very basic.) But the Stage 4 seems to be a little deeper in this aspect at least for the synth section. This is probably okay, but if the manual does not list all parameters (as demonstrated above with the fine tune) then I would not know it was even possible...

Hi everyone, just received my new NS4 yesterday and I'm own love with it! Several areas of disappointment though.

Firstly I can confirm that this is possible, in fact you don't even need two layer slots. Just select the analog waveform in the category 'multi' or 'super' which are two or more oscillators stacked, and the 'osc cntrl' knob controls detune. That's morphable too, unlike the solution already posted (which means you can assign the detune to a wheel, pedal or aftertouch).

There are several things which I'm not happy with though, as have already been mentioned. I hope I'm wrong, but it seems that you now can't choose a sample as a waveform, meaning you can't mix samples with other waveforms, like adding white noise to a choir sound. You'd need to use a whole different layer just for the white noise. Massive oversight.

Also, velocity is still not a morph source (like it is on the Nord Wave 2 and other synths).

Also, the effects, though great, are set to POST FADER, which means the sounds are send to the effects BEFORE they're sent to the fader, meaning when you turn the fader up or down, you're also turning the effects up or down. Takes away the possibilities of nice FX tails are a fader change.

Some of this MAY be fixed in upcoming updates. We can but dream. Over and out

I'm confused by your first point. When were you able to mix a sample and another waveform on the same layer previously? I've never heard of this being possible on any model?