RE: Basic MIDI Question

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Mr_-G- wrote:Hm... would that make a POP! noise when engaged/disengaged? It is a passive device, so I guess it to be a two pole switch... The advantage of a volume pedal is that it will not do so and that you can also (obviously) control the volume, but you need more feet now. How many feet have you got? The average human has less than two.
You mean a pop similar to when you turn on/off certain microphones?

Playing sitting-down is not too much of an issue operating 2/3 pedals. However, standing-up (I think I mentioned earlier) is a different ball-game.
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monsterjazzlicks wrote: You mean a pop similar to when you turn on/off certain microphones?
That is right. If you look around for "quiet audio switch" circuits, they often require more than just a switch. There seem to be two reasons for the pop sounds, one is residual voltage, the other is the switch bouncing when making the contact. Whichever way you go, please post your results as they should be useful to others.
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Mr_-G- wrote:
monsterjazzlicks wrote: You mean a pop similar to when you turn on/off certain microphones?
That is right. If you look around for "quiet audio switch" circuits, they often require more than just a switch. There seem to be two reasons for the pop sounds, one is residual voltage, the other is the switch bouncing when making the contact. Whichever way you go, please post your results as they should be useful to others.
OK, I see now - thanks.

Probably best to go down the stereo-volume-pedal path then. :|
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I wouldn't expect the pedal to produce any noticeable pop. A volume pedal is going to be a less elegant solution. They are physically a lot bigger and don't always end up or stay in the position that you expected.
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. . . There is a high, and low, 'impedance' version of the same pedal (BOSS FV-50)? Which would be best for the Nord/XV5050-module, please?
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monsterjazzlicks wrote:. . . There is a high, and low, 'impedance' version of the same pedal (BOSS FV-50)? Which would be best for the Nord/XV5050-module, please?
Low Impedance is the right one for keyboards or line signals in general (High impedance is for guitars/basses).
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maxpiano wrote:Low Impedance is the right one for keyboards or line signals in general (High impedance is for guitars/basses).
Hi Max,

So would it be correct that if the instrument has a low-output, then the device needs to be of a high-impedance. And if the instrument has a high-output, then the device needs to be of a low-impedance?

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monsterjazzlicks wrote:
maxpiano wrote:Low Impedance is the right one for keyboards or line signals in general (High impedance is for guitars/basses).
Hi Max,

So would it be correct that if the instrument has a low-output, then the device needs to be of a high-impedance. And if the instrument has a high-output, then the device needs to be of a low-impedance?

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Hi folks - I built an inexpensive MIDI kill switch for this... see my post: nord-stage-forum-f3/switching-between-d ... 21596.html
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