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Re: Dsp and ...future models
Posted: 03 Jan 2020, 21:23
by analogika
Seeing as a teardown will easily tell, why should Nord bother to sully their user-facing and straightforward appearance and attitude with technical details of interest only to a tiny core of geeks who will find out anyway?
Re: Dsp and ...future models
Posted: 03 Jan 2020, 22:14
by cphollis
FZiegler wrote:Once again.
I'm coming from real hardware musical instruments. Meaning instruments playing without electrical supply. So, in my perception, a Nord is something far beyond: first of all beyond an electrical piano, as it's an electronical instrument. I already wondered if the nowadays Nords are still to be compared to a hardware SoC like my old CP33 or rather are red painted computers. And I wouldn't be very pleased to hear that the next generation would rely on a x86 architecture. Too many hardware bugs to deal with. At least in my feeling as a layperson.
Indeed, with a Nord Stage, I don't want just a fancy cover for a software instrument. Even if it's already very close. There are a few steps between. More sample polyphony for the Stage would be nice, multilayer and microtuning, too. But if I wanted a sequencer, I wouldn't look for a Nord.
That's a fair point. One of the things that turned me off about the Kronos is that it's basically a Linux machine with a nice UI. Takes a while to boot as well. That being said, they are very popular with performing musicians, and no one seems to complain about reliability, or "hardware bugs" of any sort.
Nords appear to be proprietary designs through and through which I believe contributes to the pleasure they deliver as musical instruments. Like most people here, I don't really care about the technology underpinnings. I care much more about how they play and sound.
I have a nice acoustic grand piano. I couldn't tell you the first thing about how it is constructed. It just plays and sounds wonderful.
Re: Dsp and ...future models
Posted: 04 Jan 2020, 00:36
by FZiegler
cphollis wrote:One of the things that turned me off about the Kronos is that it's basically a Linux machine with a nice UI. Takes a while to boot as well. That being said, they are very popular with performing musicians, and no one seems to complain about reliability, or "hardware bugs" of any sort.
OK. I'm not sure what to say in reply. If I liked the Kronos concept, I could buy one even if it's running Linux (again, I say: hopefully not on such an old platform like x86). But I don't like it. It wouldn't suit my way of making music. That point is easy.
The rest - I don't know what to say. It's just to reflect the surrounding conditions of an investment. And maybe wanting to peep round the next corner of the path already when entering.
Re: Dsp and ...future models
Posted: 04 Jan 2020, 16:34
by Benis67
analogika wrote:Seeing as a teardown will easily tell, why should Nord bother to sully their user-facing and straightforward appearance and attitude with technical details of interest only to a tiny core of geeks who will find out anyway?
Sometimes the description of the technology used, especially if it is at the forefront, is an excellent form of marketing. Here are a couple of examples: Dexibel (ARM 4 core CPU) and Novation Peak ( FPGA)
https://www.dexibell.com/t2l-modeling/ https://novationmusic.com/en/peak-explained Of course, keeping the mystery can also be a form of marketing

Re: Dsp and ...future models
Posted: 04 Jan 2020, 17:36
by Schorsch
Although I am technically very interested and my job is in IT Tech I do not care at all about which hardware platform or technology is used in an instrument I’m playing. It has to do what I expect for music, that’s why I purchased it. This could include things like sound capabilities, ease of use, flexibility or others, but not if it’s based on DSP, FPGA, Intel or A or whatever, and I would never consider information about the hardware platform of value in any way to me as a musician. So I would also not see this as a marketing instrument in any way - of course just IMHO