Nord Piano 5 [RELEASED]

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FZiegler wrote:I will have to learn how to download an instagram video - I wasn't able to stop it in a moment that showed the buttons clearly. Not on my PC.
haha good point :clap: :thumbup:


So far, I've managed to re-model and decipher everything except the Sample/Synth section... :keyboard:

One thing that I don't understand about the synth section, is that there are two selection dials ...
one is "Sample select" and the other one is not clearly visible with the packaging foil...
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Wow, and I thought I had a good eye for spotting the panel/octave shift buttons! :oops: :lol:
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MartinJ2EX wrote: So far, I've managed to re-model and decipher everything except the Sample/Synth section... :keyboard:

One thing that I don't understand about the synth section, is that there are two selection dials ...
one is "Sample select" and the other one is not clearly visible with the packaging foil...
It could be anything, but IMHO it's a bit unlikely that the Synth/sample has been massively overhauled: if so, the only reason remaining for people to orient themselves toward the Stage would be the organ section. But there's already the Electro for that...

...Unless, of course, the future Stage will be even more drastically overhauled (4 panels? :) ). Then reasons would still remain for us to choose the Stage. Exciting times!*

*But not as exciting as when they'll finally say something about the C3(?).** :mrgreen:
**Or when they'll announce the update for the Stage 3. :mrgreen:
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Hlaalu wrote:IMHO it's a bit unlikely that the Synth/sample has been massively overhauled

...Unless, of course, the future Stage will be even more drastically overhauled (4 panels? :) ). Exciting times!*
*But not as exciting as when they'll finally say something about the C3(?).** :mrgreen:
**Or when they'll announce the update for the Stage 3. :mrgreen:
No I don’t think that’s it’s drastically overhauled - I assume the second rotary button can select Sample presets or something like that :)

4 panels, and the Stage 4 would be an extremely desirable BEAST! :keyboard:
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Re 73-key vs 76-key actions from Fatar, the SW keyboard in my Electro 3 73 has 76 key receptors. It came with 73 keys, but I installed a 74th to give me the low E.

I have no idea what Nord's actual plans are, but it could be possible for them to use a 76-key action from some manufacturer, and only install 73 keys on it.
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Spider wrote:Interesting they resurrected the "compact" version after the not-so-successful Piano 2 HP.
How do you know the Piano 2 HP was not successful? If only based on the fact that there was no 3 HP, that could also have resulted from how such a model would have stacked up in price/features versus the concurrent version Electro HP. The Electro/Piano balance has shifted over time as feature sets have changed, and they may have simply felt that the Electro HP sufficiently addressed the market for an HP-based piano. That is, there wouldn't have been sufficient price+feature differentiation between the two to have it make sense to continue to offer both, once the Electro was also possible of doing a split or layer (introduced on the E5). But now, a dual-panel implementation would also re-introduce a more substantial feature differentiation between this piano and the Electro 6, besides basically just not having the organ.
Spider wrote:The thing is, I've almost never seen a high-end FATAR piano action (TP/40 and variants) in less than 88 keys. Literally the only one I can think about was the HA action in the old NS2 (not EX).
Also the Kurzweil Forte 7.
Spider wrote:Yeah, interesting that they are bringing the two-panel architecture also to the Piano (and so, arguably, to the future Electros? They have always shared almost all features with the Piano and Stages).
I suspect not. Getting back to what I said above, I think the re-introduction of a 7x piano supports the idea of their aiming for more significant differences between the Piano and Electro series, not making them more similar, to avoid too much overlap. You'd be back to the Electro and Piano differing by little more than the presence of the organ engine.

I also think a change like that might raise the price of the Electro, which is already premium priced enough, I don't think they'd want their entry bread-and-butter board to be more expensive than it is. I think bringing it closer to the Stage 3 in price and functionality is an unlikely goal.

As an aside, I'm not sure dual panel would even be a good idea for an Electro. I've seen numerous posts over the years from people who think the Stage is too confusing, lacking the relative simplicity of the Electro, and I think a lot of that comes from the dual panel architecture, which immediately leads to controls not doing what one may expect because they are affecting the "other" panel. Dual panels may not be a good idea for what is essentially their "My First Nord" product. As it is, I also see complaints that the Electro got too complicated as soon as they added the ability to split/layer (i.e. play more than one sound at a time). There are people who miss the simplicity of the Electro 4 and earlier. I think they probably want to be careful about adding complexity to this board. I suspect that is why the Set List mode of the Electro 5 disappeared from the 6 (though it basically survives in the Stage series as Song mode).
BjoernFromEarth wrote:In advanced mode, the CP series can also play two Acoustic Pianos or two Electric Piano at the same time. You can shift Acoustic Pianos to the Electric Pianos section and vice versa.
It also works the other way, allowing you to play one piano/EP sound and two "synth" sounds. Any combination of three of its sounds.
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anotherscott wrote: How do you know the Piano 2 HP was not successful?
I don't "know" of course, just my perception based on it being a one-off which immediately got withdrawn from the product portfolio, and also on the fact that I literally never saw one for sale on the (local) used market.
But yes I agree that there is way too much overlap in Clavia's stage piano lineup: they started to differentiate a bit with the Grand and the Kawai action...but now the NP4 is basically just a slightly more portable Grand with a worse action (or an Electro with 88 keys and no organ)...very small tradeoffs, for intruments which are very expensive and starting to get tough competition from the big players, who until now somehow neglected this market segment.
Definitely Clavia needs to do something: either differentiate more the 4 lines of stage pianos, or suppress at least one of them.
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If the above is true this is rather exciting news.

I would be in the queue for a 73 key Piano 5 that can layer 2 pianos with a better action all day long.
As primarily a piano player I don't have use for the organ section or synth and would have had to fork out the price of a Stage to get this functionality.

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kirsty wrote:If the above is true this is rather exciting news.

I would be in the queue for a 73 key Piano 5 that can layer 2 pianos with a better action all day long.
As primarily a piano player I don't have use for the organ section or synth and would have had to fork out the price of a Stage to get this functionality.

reckon I would join that queue too ! I like my Piano3, but I would trade 15 keys for a lighter board.... getting too old to be carting 88 keys around now
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Wonder how long it will be before its released :D

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