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Re: Nord Stage 3 without Windows or MAC
Posted: 16 Jan 2021, 19:00
by dmamfmgm
I am a native English speaker, Western USA, and my vote is with analogika.
To my ears, it sounds fine. analogika wrote:
"Linux and ChromeOS are all but irrelevant, and probably even less than that among the actual target market, which is musicians."
To my ears, that is the same as saying:
"Linux and ChromeOS are very close to irrelevant, not quite 100% irrelevant, but very close, and probably even less [relevant] among the actual target market, which is musicians."
Re: Nord Stage 3 without Windows or MAC
Posted: 16 Jan 2021, 19:02
by dmamfmgm
(I will add that I am a huge Linux fan. I would like Linux to become relevant. However, I am aware how little use Linux gets especially in the music industry.)
Re: Nord Stage 3 without Windows or MAC
Posted: 16 Jan 2021, 19:19
by anotherscott
cgrafx wrote:what does booting into disk mode do? (what does it give you access to)
I don't know about the Yamaha in particular, but in general, allowing a keyboard to be seen as a storage device on your computer's desktop means you can transfer files to it just by dragging them over. It's quicker/simpler than what you have to do on most boards, which is dragging the files onto a USB stick, putting the USB stick in your keyboard, and following the keyboard's procedure for loading sounds from a USB stick. Though the latter also has its advantage if your computer and keyboard are not normally/easily placed near each other.
On other topics... one advantage of PC/Mac support over iOS support is that, many years from now, if you need to, you'll still be able to find an old Mac or PC onto which you can load any old version of its OS that you might need in order to be compatible with some specific piece of old software/hardware. You can't similarly count on being able to locate and make use of an old iOS device, because once they have a certain OS on them, there's no way to make the run a previous OS, and no way to load software onto them that is no longer available on the app store. It's a very dicey platform for long term viability. I'm not saying iOS support for Nord wouldn't be desirable, but I wouldn't want it at the expense of Mac/Win support,
Re: Nord Stage 3 without Windows or MAC
Posted: 16 Jan 2021, 20:16
by Tasten-Bert
>> I'm not saying iOS support for Nord wouldn't be desirable, but I wouldn't want it at the expense of Mac/Win support, <<
If I remember correctly noone ever mentioned that. The Mac/Win support is there and shall ever remain there. The desire of having the Sound Manager also for iOS would just be a nice amendment.
Cheers from locked down Germany - sadly: big May events have just been cancelled
Re: Nord Stage 3 without Windows or MAC
Posted: 16 Jan 2021, 23:04
by baekgaard
dmamfmgm wrote:I am a native English speaker, Western USA, and my vote is with analogika.
To my ears, it sounds fine. analogika wrote:
"Linux and ChromeOS are all but irrelevant, and probably even less than that among the actual target market, which is musicians."
To my ears, that is the same as saying:
"Linux and ChromeOS are very close to irrelevant, not quite 100% irrelevant, but very close, and probably even less [relevant] among the actual target market, which is musicians."
Would it be correct to say that "all but" is like "everything on it's way, but just missing the final step, to become"?
That's the way I've normally thought the phrase had originated ... Every condition is fulfilled except for some tiny part missing?
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Re: Nord Stage 3 without Windows or MAC
Posted: 16 Jan 2021, 23:48
by dmamfmgm
This is just my subjective opinion, and the phrases that sounds most natural to me with "all but" are some of these:
- It is all but certain musicians will use Windows or Mac.
- Linux is all but forgotten.
- The Nord Sound Manager runs on all but one of the three OS's.
- I dream of linux being the dominant desktop OS. My dream is all but lost.
There are these few "magic phrases" that sound familiar. "All but certain," "All but forgotten," "all but one," "all but lost." There are likely a few more such phrases that I'm not recalling right now.
My experience with the phrase "all but" has been so often one of these "magic phrases," and not really much else, so that in other uses it sounds strange. Specifically I think the phrase is used in a short, punchy sentence that marks a point being emphasized.
(Now, I did say above that analogika's use sounds fine to me. It does. It's not a "magic phrase" I've heard before to say "all but irrelevant," but it definitely made sense, as in, I could comprehend it fine. I think my brain pattern-matched it to "all but forgotten.")
I'm just one data point though; hardly definitive.
Re: Nord Stage 3 without Windows or MAC
Posted: 17 Jan 2021, 00:43
by anotherscott
baekgaard wrote:Would it be correct to say that "all but" is like "everything on it's way, but just missing the final step, to become"?
That's the way I've normally thought the phrase had originated ... Every condition is fulfilled except for some tiny part missing?
Yes. "All but" is indeed a variation on "everything except" (all = everything, but = except) -- Which again, brings you to "almost." Just a bit shy of completion.
Re: Nord Stage 3 without Windows or MAC
Posted: 17 Jan 2021, 16:25
by analogika
maxpiano wrote:
Nope, also in those examples it means "except", but let's wait for some native speakers to give us the final... word

The link explicitly says:
„Meaning of all but in English:
all but
PHRASE
1. Very nearly.“
Also… I AM a native speaker.

Re: Nord Stage 3 without Windows or MAC
Posted: 17 Jan 2021, 16:28
by analogika
anotherscott wrote:baekgaard wrote:Would it be correct to say that "all but" is like "everything on it's way, but just missing the final step, to become"?
That's the way I've normally thought the phrase had originated ... Every condition is fulfilled except for some tiny part missing?
Yes. "All but" is indeed a variation on "everything except" (all = everything, but = except) -- Which again, brings you to "almost." Just a bit shy of completion.
Exactly.
Re: Nord Stage 3 without Windows or MAC
Posted: 17 Jan 2021, 16:55
by Tasten-Bert
Sorry, folks, if I had known before, I wouldn‘t have started this quarrel. Stay happy and healthy.