Nord User Forum

Woodyeyes wrote:When a small but successful and profitable company makes products that other much larger competitors may wish to copy, its sometimes simpler to take them over.
On the other hand if they did go bust, I’m sure this forum would continue in some form.

Or they just save the takeover costs, pretty much copy everything, paint it black and put their own label on it... rather like the new Yamaha CP88.

Gambold wrote: Clavia is already behind the curve on their software (no wireless, no IPad or Chromebook access, etc)

You can't seriously tell me someone who's involved enough with music to shell out the cash for a Nord would cheap out with a Chromebook? They're really only designed for students, their sole capability is to run the Chrome browser and whatever browser plugins are available. The one I got stuck with be only had 16GB of internal flash memory!

Chrombook bashing aside - some people find them light and useful, especially for single-purpose applications.

But far more tedious than having to use a full laptop is having to cable it in. Wireless needs to happen.

Gambold wrote:Wireless needs to happen.

Which invites its own level of tedium to the gigging party...

WiFi? Bring your own WAP/router and configure/test, configure/retest, and configure some more. "Cause I ain't competing with my clientele (maybe even my bandmates) for network bandwidth.

Bluetooth? Be prepared for your devices to fall asleep during breaks between sets, and allow enough time to wake them all up and reconnect to each other. (Oh wait, that's true for WiFi, too.)

These details are not insurmountable... but to call a cabled solution "tedious" is sugar-coating the current state of wireless a bit.

it seems that this thread has rather veered off-topic, but since we're there anyway:

I had a simply BRILLIANT idea a couple years ago for the Nord booth at NAMM. After a couple years of having very good success at running my Qu-Pac keyboard/band mixer from iPad interface via wifi, I figured I could run the NAMM booth sound the same way and rigged up a travel rack to bring with me to NAMM. The Qu-Pac could live on the floor beneath one of the keyboards, take up less space, I could mix from out front, etc. Turns out the Anaheim Convention Center has too much wifi traffic in the house to allow the system to work. By the time we figured that out, the whole rig had been wired up and set in stone, so I had to setup/mix a different show every hour on the hour for three days in a row on my hands and knees. Never again. Give me the tedium of cabling things whenever possible.

I think now's the time we need to discuss that extremely disturbing, sickening brown patch that's stained things for various countries... BREXIT!, yes, you heard me right... brown patch... I couldn't exactly say anything stronger, I don't want to offend.

If it is the definite case that the planned action is confirmed on 31st October, then various EU countries will hit the UK hard, why? Customs matters, etc. Before this absolute FARSE started, we had a safe and stable means of trade with the EU (I need to justify that I am a remainer not leaver) we have been thrown in to chaos, an unnecessary act which has endangered various forms of trade and business within the EU, this includes Sweden. What this effectively means is that Once an order is placed from UK dealers through the UK distributor, to Nord, We will be hit by import duties, tax, etc meaning that the price of equipment like this in the UK will rise further.

I will end my comment by these words.

Dear David Cameron, Thank you for lying to us and deceiving the citizens of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. Thank you for endangering business, medicines, trade within international waters and also for increasing the level of poverty. You sir are to blame, you created a doorway which you walked out of, forcing an internal election of a new Prime Minister, who then made matters worse for our country, As Theresa May left her post, we received, much to our concern, Mr. Boris Johnson, a man who has now endangered us as a nation further. We as UK citizens no longer have a voice, because we are ignored in favour of men with suits with money falling from their trousers. To you sir, we blame you, Your own actions have caused this hell, forcing a British nation in to a lie, risking our Armed Forces and so much more. We used to be a strong economic power, we're now a laughing stock.


Sorry for that folks, but with this financial talk of Nord, we have to now face some cold truths about costs, It doesn't just affect us here in the UK, this affects many others as well.

Er...yeah. Pablo you really did veer OT. C'mon man!

Not sure what the detraction on wireless is about - I wasn't talking about at gigs - does anyone actually plug in Sound Manager while on stage? Your band must take long breaks between songs.

I think the verdict on wireless being more convenient than wired is long settled. I use wireless to connect to my Mojo - I can sit in my den or wherever and futz with its settings to my heart's content (also I can use my IPhone if I want)...I don't have to run downstairs and hunker next to the beast, tethered in by a USB cable.

Of course the Mojo's interface is less sophisticated than Nord's Sound Manager. You can still do a bit, it's just kind of ugly and there isn't any ability to upload new sounds or that kind of thing. Mojo uses firmware and its own internal SSID, so you have to jump off your local Internet and can only talk to the board.

Best would be for Nord to facilitate a way for its boards to attach to your home internet. Built-in card would be best, and you'd give it an IP just like you do your printer and anything else in your wireless paradise. Uploading pianos is already a time-sucker so the added minutes for wireless isn't going to matter - unless you are doing this on stage, which I find to hard to imagine. Wireless cards are hardly an expensive item - the cost for Clavia would be incorporating one into their hardware - but it's going to have to happen sooner or later.

CountFosco wrote:Er...yeah. Pablo you really did veer OT. C'mon man!

just following someone else's lead -- it wasn't me that first switched this from discussing the finances of a privately held company to the efficacy of using wifi for musical purposes. And yes, wireless can be nice, but it simply does not work in some environments, so one has to be prepared for failure.

the Brexit thing does, however, belong in the off-topic forum, alongside my Drumpf rant, and not here. Wouldn't it be something to see the Donald and Boris facing off in a professional wrestling bout? Or perhaps better suited as a tag-team match with the two of them teamed up against....against whom? It will be interesting to see suggestions for tag team opponents to that pair

pablomastodon wrote:

CountFosco wrote:Er...yeah. Pablo you really did veer OT. C'mon man!

just following someone else's lead -- it wasn't me that first switched this from discussing the finances of a privately held company to the efficacy of using wifi for musical purposes. And yes, wireless can be nice, but it simply does not work in some environments, so one has to be prepared for failure.

the Brexit thing does, however, belong in the off-topic forum, alongside my Drumpf rant, and not here. Wouldn't it be something to see the Donald and Boris facing off in a professional wrestling bout? Or perhaps better suited as a tag-team match with the two of them teamed up against....against whom? It will be interesting to see suggestions for tag team opponents to that pair

I wouldn't say that really.... lol.

I had a very interesting conversation with a friend of mine who's one of the directors for ChurchOrganWorld UK, suppliers of digital and hybrid organs from some of the biggest in EUROPEAN manufacturers like Johannus (Germany), etc. The serious worry we have is this...

If things go as they will, when Sweden exports it's gear to the UK and Northern Ireland, we could be stung by Customs duties and other matters imposed by the EU as part of the Brexit matter. This matter affects us in many ways such as buying goods, the potential of food crisis, medication crisis, etc. We can only hope for positive resolution. But that said, my point carries valid weight here, we're discussing the financials of a company based in Sweden, part of the European Union, *euro-peeingonmydoorstep" oops sorry just came out. With this issue, The sale of goods from sweden to the UK and Ireland will cause some headaches depending on how the customs rule is applied here as both parties are now responsible for duties and indemnities which will affect the price of equipment, which then affects shares, etc. bare this in mind please folks.