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kbrkr wrote:I would use the sample to "Thicken" and add bite to the base Organ panel; not replace the organ.

Ah. But any attempt to beef up the percussion that way would not work, because it would be multi-trigger vs. single-trigger. You might be better off layering a percussive synth sound in its Legato Voice Mode which would behave correctly (for single-note lines, anyway). And that's something you could do today.

(Layering a synth sound for chorusy thickness could also be worth trying, too, as layering a C3 chorus sample also wouldn't give you the effect you're after anyway.)

kbrkr wrote:

anotherscott wrote:

kbrkr wrote:But here's the thing; If Clavia are not fixing the Organ section Chorus and Percussion, they have to at least fix the sampling so we can upload our own B3 samples with Chorus and Percussion.

That would not be any kind of solution. A sampled B3 would be worse in numerous other ways (for example low polyphony, no high trigger point, likely phase issues, no drawbar tweaking), AND the Chorus and Percussion would still be wrong besides. A "baked in" sampled chorus would sound wrong because it would not be synchronized among multiple keys playing simultaneously (between sample stretching and hitting different keys at different times), and percussion would trigger on every key instead of only triggering when no other notes were held.

I would use the sample to "Thicken" and add bite to the base Organ panel; not replace the organ.

That would be worse than what you have now.

At least with percussion set to “Normal”, you have a realistic “soft” percussion.

analogika wrote:

kbrkr wrote:I would use the sample to "Thicken" and add bite to the base Organ panel; not replace the organ.

That would be worse than what you have now.

At least with percussion set to “Normal”, you have a realistic “soft” percussion.

And the next problem - if you want a dual manual (or split) organ setup, and you're using the internal rotary sim. Then there is no way to put both the synth and organ on one panel, through the rotary. This means you have to choose to either have the organ or your sample through the Leslie sim, and the other part of the layer will be dry... that will really not sound too convincing.
Of course, if you don't need both upper and lower organ, you can layer organ A with synth B and run them both through the rotary. Or if you are using an external Leslie sim, or real Leslie, you can route all four parts to a separate output (by assigning all of panel A and B to that output. The piano on each panel could then be routed to stereo 1-2, by using the sub output channel).
To put it another way - the rotary only have two inputs, one four each panel, but you would need at least four inputs, or two for each panel.

And it would still sound like crap, since either you're trying to fix the chorus, but that wouldn't be a single chorus signal generated by a scanner, but a huge mess of individual notes, each out of phase with it's own sampled chorus… — or you're trying to fix the percussion, and you're getting a single percussion click from a monophonic legato synth tone.

The German word is "Verschlimmbesserung", which literally translates to "imterribleprovement".

analogika wrote:And it would still sound like crap [...]

The German word is "Verschlimmbesserung", which literally translates to "imterribleprovement".

German is such a rich language. I have a lot of trouble with declensions but German compound nouns are just the greatest thing ever.